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Yes, the sacrifice was made in our historical timeline. Yet God exists outside time (not before or after time)

let;s take it like this

-------A----------------B----

This is the line of time -- we exist on and in this line. To us event A happened before event B. Event A can never happen again.

However, God does not exist on this line, God sees everything as an eternal NOW, so to give a comparison it's like looking at the line from one end -- it becomes just a point, a point at which A and B are together.

As Heb 10:18 says, our sins have been forgiven, there is no more offering for sin. Christ is not still impaled or suffering for our sins. --> the event we see has ended.

In heaven, what is seen is as described in Revelations. We witness that heavenly scene and witness that ONE-time event, the sacrifice, we participate in that ONE-time event.

Christ's sacrifice is the same in each mass, wherever, whenever. All we do is repeat the offering of THE MASS, the renewal of the celebration, the commemoration, the remembrance, the celebration of the ONE-TIME sacrifice. Christ is not offered again and again, but He has already offered Himself once and the mass has THAT one-time sacrifice as it's sacrifice.

as described in Revelations

Revelations is future Cronos...hasn't happened yet in our "Time"....and it's in our time we do live and worship.

He has already offered Himself once and the mass has THAT one-time sacrifice as it's sacrifice.

You are still saying He is being sacrificed Cronos...and that simply isn't so. No matter which time is chosen...past present or future. A Priest cannot bring Christ down into the sacrements by some hocus pocus way...and I mean no disrespect in saying it as so...but that is what it is.

Cronos, I read many and numerous articles from the Vatican site and other resources linked...they are all saying what you are trying hard to say that they aren't 'really' saying.

Call it what you want....but the ritual praticed just is not how Christ intended . Though it does give another excuse for your Priesthood to remain Priests....and the rest of the leadership all the way to Rome.

EArly morning so am off line soon.

Christ's sacrifice is the same in each mass, wherever, whenever. All we do is repeat the offering of THE MASS, the renewal of the celebration, the commemoration, the remembrance, the celebration of the ONE-TIME sacrifice. Christ is not offered again and again, but He has already offered Himself once and the mass has THAT one-time sacrifice as it's sacrifice.

Then why use words to make it sound like a re-sacrifice is performed? What, the Catholic Church can't afford better writers?

“Christ’s sacrifice is the same in each mass, wherever, whenever. All we do is repeat the offering of THE MASS, the renewal of the celebration, the commemoration, the remembrance, the celebration of the ONE-TIME sacrifice.”

And here exactly is where Rome’s error (and yours) is shown.

“We.” if Christ is the only acceptable sacrifice, how can *we* DO anything? If *we* present his sacrifice again, on what basis could it ever be received? God says that all of our works are as dirty rags. How can that not taint this “representation?”

Clue: Christ’s sacrifice is done, complete and finished. It does not need representation; to do so is to deny its sufficiency. To claim His death requires anything like renewal is to claim that once is not enough. Besides, how can one claim, “Christ’s sacrifice is the same in every Mass” and still say that his sacrifice was one time only??? Non-sequitor.

Sorry. But there is no logic to your claim or explanation.

Hoss