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The Collapse of Cultural Catholicism
Standing on My Head ^ | 1/27/11 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 01/28/2011 9:32:34 AM PST by marshmallow

Shery Weddell at the St Catherine of Siena Institute reports that 32% of Americans raised Catholic abandon the identity altogether by their mid twenties. An additional 38% retain the identity but rarely practice their faith. 30% of those who call themselves Catholic attend Mass only once a month. On a given Sunday only about 15.6% of American Catholics attend Mass.

What is the reason for these disastrous statistics? Basically because for the last forty years Catholics themselves have not taught Catholicism to their children. They've taught 'American Catholicism' which is a watered down blend of sentimentalism, political correctness, community activism and utilitarianism. In other words, "Catholicism is about feeling good about yourself, being just to others and trying to change the world." The next generation have drawn the obvious conclusion that you don't need to go to Mass to do all that. You can feel good about yourself much more effectively with a good book from the self help shelf, or by attending a personal development seminar. You can be involved in making the world a better place without going to church.

If only 15% of Catholics go to Mass on a given Sunday, look around and see how many of them are old. Even the 15% who are there won't be there for very long.

The solution is simple: we must return to the supernatural realities of the historic faith and evangelize like the Apostles of old. The big difference is that the Apostles knew their targets were pagans and the pagans knew they weren't Christians. We're dealing with a huge population of Americans (Catholics and Protestants alike) who are pagan but who think they're 'good Christians.' It is very difficult to evangelize people who already think they're fine just as they are. We don't know what we don't know, and the vast majority of poorly catechized, lazy and worldly Catholics aren't aware that there's anything wrong.

What will it take for us to wake up?


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To: lastchance; verdugo; Judith Anne; diamond6; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ...
Yes otherwise it will turn into a Catholic bashing. I think it qualifies since the article does not mention any other faith or sect.

LOL!!!

What a joke. All this whining about *Catholic bashing* all the while bashing Protestants in posts 11, 13, 16, 17, 18,.... for their *Catholic bashing*.

241 posted on 01/28/2011 9:54:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: lastchance; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

The RM has graciously derived the

ECUMENICAL THREAD

and the CAUCUS THREAD

designations.

Failure to use them is NOT the RM’s fault.

Wailing and whining after the fact—in large part because of RC CHOICE to NOT use such designations—is childish to the max.


242 posted on 01/28/2011 9:54:46 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

And now 121 is deleted.

Mod, resign. You are not worthy of the name.


243 posted on 01/28/2011 9:55:30 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: lastchance; marshmallow; TopCat; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...
marshmallow post 19: Yeah, I hear ya, but it does contain the word "Protestants" so...........ya know........

Lastchance: Edit out that last part. The article still stands on its own merits.

Well, there's real honestly and integrity for you....

244 posted on 01/28/2011 9:57:15 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Leave the thread.


245 posted on 01/28/2011 9:57:20 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Quix

Never wrote it was.


246 posted on 01/28/2011 9:58:16 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: CTrent1564

You seem to be assuming that I care that much about such net conventions and sensibilities.

I’ve pontificated at length on the topic here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2347476/posts

You are quite welcome to avoid my posts.

Assumptions about my anger and yelling are likely to continue to be at best seriously flawed if not thoroughly wrong.

I find “vitriolic” to say far more about the person using the term about me than it says about me.

Even folks I’ve never met face to face on FR and even who do not agree with a lot of my perspective know that’s a dreadfully inaccurate and poor term to use about me and even about my emotional and dramatic posts.


247 posted on 01/28/2011 9:58:51 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: lastchance

“but I would not do that because I would be shamed to say I had done so on the Day of Judgment”

It has taken a long time for someone to come along and say this; thank you for saying it.

I have often had the same thought when reading comments on contentious threads.

Many seem to post as if they were the “man behind the curtain”-—but the Lord sees all, and we all will be held accountable for every word.


248 posted on 01/28/2011 9:59:28 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: metmom

It does not change the substance of the article at all.
Protestants in name only do exist, as I wrote I do not consider them to be actual faithful Protestants. An example would be those “Protestants” who do not believe in the bodily Resurrection or the Virgin birth or that Jesus was God or who teach that homosexual behavior is not sinful. I may disagree with you but you are not a Pagan.

The article was about evangelizing in a culture that believes it is Christian but is in many cases truly Pagan. The most specific example of such cultural Christianity glossing over actual Paganism I can think of is how certain sects support abortion.

So how do you get those who because they sit in a pew on Sunday believe themselves to be Christian (although they just voted in favor of same sex unions.) to understand they are being served a corrupt Gospel?


251 posted on 01/28/2011 10:06:56 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Quix

Do not ping a poster who has been instructed to leave the thread.


252 posted on 01/28/2011 10:09:18 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Running On Empty

I am aware I have been guilty of bad conduct but I hope the Lord will bring my faults to mind so that I may be ever mindful of them and the offense they give to Him.


253 posted on 01/28/2011 10:09:52 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: metmom

Well I see there’s a battlefield here.....some things just never change. This thread is like a street fight!


254 posted on 01/28/2011 10:10:27 PM PST by caww
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To: lastchance

As impossible as it might be for y’all to imagine it . . .

I’m keenly aware that Jesus is—essentially—observing every character I type AND the heart motives behind every word, thought and feeling.

Perspectives are interesting things . . . and no two are identical.


255 posted on 01/28/2011 10:10:46 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

I have never thought you had ill motives.


256 posted on 01/28/2011 10:12:10 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Aye Aye, Wasn’t aware of that when I posted.

Sorry.


257 posted on 01/28/2011 10:13:41 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lera

Don’t forget the fact that the vast majority of the under 35s in Ireland don’t attend mass. Even”devout” Portugal couldn’t stop gay marriage.


258 posted on 01/28/2011 10:13:41 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: lastchance

PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR DISCERNMENT AND INSIGHT

And honest candor.

MAY GOD Bless you with all the good things you might desire from God this week.


259 posted on 01/28/2011 10:15:42 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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There was no mention of other beliefs.

Then why did you, in post 31, suggest editing out the line that included the word *Protestant* so that it could be posted as a caucus thread?

That comes across as being more than a little deceitful.

260 posted on 01/28/2011 10:27:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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