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To: Alamo-Girl
"Er, he proposes neither a democracy nor a constitutional republic but rather a benevolent Catholic dictatorship"

I was referring to the defense of democracy spread used as a thinly veiled assault on Catholicism. This is particularly in light of the constant defense of the "Enlightened Absolutism" that was the hell hole of Calvin's Geneva.

Every Catholic I know prefers a constitutional republic to protect the individual rights given us by God. "It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." (Gal 5:1)

Given the choice between the transitional soft tyranny of secular democracy and a benevolent Catholic dictatorship I will choose the later.

118 posted on 05/02/2011 9:55:42 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...

Seems to me,

the tones, word choices, attitudes of dictatorship

tends to reek from posts above your screen name.

Must be a coincidence.


120 posted on 05/02/2011 9:59:29 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Natural Law
Given the choice between the transitional soft tyranny of secular democracy and a benevolent Catholic dictatorship I will choose the later.


You want to have a little Catholic dictator ? Pack your bags and move yourself to Venezuela .
123 posted on 05/02/2011 11:48:53 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Natural Law

Then you can thank these Calvinists, among a great many others;

The 55 Framers (from North to South):

John Langdon, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
Nicholas Gilman, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
Elbridge Gerry, Episcoplian (Calvinist)
Rufus King, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Caleb Strong, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
Nathaniel Gorham, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
Roger Sherman, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
William Samuel Johnson, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Oliver Ellsworth, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
Alexander Hamilton, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
John Lansing, Dutch Reformed (Calvinist)
Robert Yates, Dutch Reformed (Calvinist)
William Patterson, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
William Livingston, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
Jonathan Dayton, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
David Brearly, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
William Churchill Houston, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
Benjamin Franklin, Christian in his youth, Deist in later years,
then back to his Puritan background in his old age
(his June 28, 1787 prayer at the Constitutional Convention was from no "Deist")
Robert Morris, Episcopalian, (Calvinist)
James Wilson, probably a Deist
Gouverneur Morris, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Thomas Mifflin, Lutheran (Calvinist-lite)
George Clymer, Quaker turned Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Thomas FitzSimmons, Roman Catholic
Jared Ingersoll, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
John Dickinson, Quaker turned Episcopalian (Calvinist)
George Read, Episcopalian, (Calvinist)
Richard Bassett, Methodist
Gunning Bedford, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
Jacob Broom, Lutheran
Luther Martin, Episcopalian, (Calvinist)
Daniel Carroll, Roman Catholic
John Francis Mercer, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
James McHenry, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
Daniel of St Thomas Jennifer, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
George Washington, Episcopalian (Calvinist; no, he was not a deist)
James Madison, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
George Mason, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Edmund Jennings Randolph, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
James Blair, Jr., Episcopalian (Calvinist)
James McClung, ?
George Wythe, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
William Richardson Davie, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
Hugh Williamson, Presbyterian, possibly later became a Deist
William Blount, Presbyterian (Calvinist)
Alexander Martin, Presbyterian/Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Richard Dobbs Spaight, Jr., Episcopalian (Calvinist)
John Rutledge, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, III, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
Abraham Baldwin, Congregationalist (Calvinist)
William Leigh Pierce, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
William Houstoun, Episcopalian (Calvinist)
William Few, Methodist

For further consideration, at the bottom of this page; http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/dutch_indepen_1581.html --- The Dutch Declaration of Independence 1581
can be found

Translator's Introduction:


124 posted on 05/03/2011 1:53:47 AM PDT by BlueDragon (tonto he got smart said listenkimmosabe, kissmyass I boughtaboat, I'm headedout to sea)
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To: Natural Law
Every Catholic in my family would agree that a constitutional republic is preferred over a pure democracy or a benevolent Catholic dictatorship.

Indeed, I would never agree to a benevolent Catholic dictatorship because there are always mere mortal occupying the throne. We must wait for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. – Isaiah 9:6

God's Name is I AM.

131 posted on 05/03/2011 8:33:04 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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