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Last Judgement #28 [Invitation to the New Church]
e-mail ^ | 1758 | Emmanuel Swedenborg

Posted on 05/22/2011 10:02:42 AM PDT by DaveMSmith

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This is from a summer reading series from our Atlanta society that seems very relevant today. This is today's reading and I thought I would share it here.

I put this out there in the Spirit of spreading the Good News that Camping may well be right about the date but he was all wet about what was going to happen. I believe this to be God's Word.

Swedenborg states the Last Judgement took place in the Spiritual World in 1757. On earth as in Heaven. Why would a loving Lord destroy all that we created out of love -- the works of our own creation?

In the last paragraph, the references can be accessed at Heavenly Doctrines and putting 'AC nnnn' in the search box, selecting all words and Writings English from the Index. All translations are available. The Chadwick translation is the most current.

1 posted on 05/22/2011 10:02:46 AM PDT by DaveMSmith
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To: DaveMSmith
...sending those who have lived good lives to everlasting life or heaven...

That is a completely false statement. The way to salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ ALONE. There are no amount of good works you can do to "earn" your way to heaven.

The rest of this post is quite strange. To claim that Jesus' return as described--coming on the clouds of heaven with His angels--is somehow not the way it will be is basically saying the Bible is not true. And, to claim that angels are not what the Bible says they are, is again claiming the Bible is not true.

Beware of this false teaching!

2 posted on 05/22/2011 10:35:01 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina
It's not false. What Camping taught in his Bible Study is false.

It's word and deed. Will a horrible individual who always states his opinion in a cruel way go to heaven because he cam say 'I love Jesus' -- giving lip service with no repentance? That's downright stupid.

BTW, Luther added the ALONE in his German translation of the NT. Read the rest of that Chapter in the Epistles.

3 posted on 05/22/2011 11:09:00 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith
"Camping may well be right about the date but he was all wet about what was going to happen."
sorry buddy, but this statement, right here, makes you an idiot, worthy of humiliation and vegetable throwing target...get lost
4 posted on 05/22/2011 11:18:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: DaveMSmith

Of course what Camping “prophesied” is false! It directly contradicts the teaching of God’s Word.

There is no such thing a “The New Church.” The “Emergent Church,” the same thing, is nothing more than the repackaging of ancient heresies from hell.

The Bible is God’s revelation to mankind. To try to take away from its meaning and truth is a dangerous place to put yourself in. Postmodernism and deconstruction of God’s Word will take you to a place you don’t want to be.


5 posted on 05/22/2011 11:28:06 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina
There is no such thing a “The New Church.”

See my profile page.

6 posted on 05/22/2011 11:40:37 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: joe fonebone; Religion Moderator
makes you an idiot

Please don't make it personal.

7 posted on 05/22/2011 11:42:41 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith

There is nothing “new” about cults; they go back to the dawn of time. In most of them, to the grain of truth they teach, they add a multitude of lies (the “heavenly doctrines”).

There truly is nothing new under the sun, and deception is the order of the day in this world of Satan’s lies.


8 posted on 05/22/2011 12:00:16 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina
Cult?

Lies?

I see this every day on Trinity Broadcasting -- Benny Hinn and Paula White. The adulterous couple.

This is the real deal.

9 posted on 05/22/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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I'm sorry, Dave, but I can't follow your thinking.

When you say things like,"Why would a loving Lord destroy all that we created out of love -- the works of our own creation?" I know that you not know/understand or believe the teachings of the Bible.

The Bible plainly says that the Lord is going to destroy the current heavens and earth and replace them. The Bible is also clear that the "works of OUR creation," or our "good works," are as "filthy rags" to God. Yes, he is a loving God, but He is also a God who will judge this world with fire.

10 posted on 05/22/2011 3:29:53 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina
The Bible plainly says that the Lord is going to destroy the current heavens and earth and replace them.

Scripture? Could the Apostles ever imagine our technology today? We have replicated what Swedenborg saw in Heaven. Earth is the seedbed of Heaven.

When spiritual eyes are opened, we can see past the literal sense of the Word. The Apostles saw the Lord after his death because their spiritual eyes were opened.

We know that our use here and in Heaven follows our loves -- good or bad. If it's good, it's from God, bad or evil: from self.

Jesus stated that His kingdom is not of this world. On Earth, He operates through angels and men -- we are all connected.

In the OT, what is described is a religion of the flesh. NT: Christianity is a religion of the Spirit. See Revelation -- John continually says he is in the Spirit. Swedenborg had the same thing -- and published over 30 volumes on everything he saw (with Heavenly guidance).

11 posted on 05/22/2011 4:59:35 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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The apostles did not have to “imagine” anything. God IS, and He is not bound by time. Don’t you know that God knew all the “technology” we would have today? Don’t you understand that we have all the “technology” BECAUSE of Him? God revealed the future to those men—they did not “imagine” it.

By your words, it is plain that you do not know the Bible.

There are a number of places throughout the Bible that tell of God’s coming judgment on the world.

“Heaven and earth WILL PASS AWAY, but my words will not pass away.” Matthew 24:35

See Revelation 21:1-2.
See 2 Peter 3:7
And, see the whole chapter of Matthew 24 (try verse 29 on for size).

I could cite more Scriptures, but, I do not expect you to listen to sound reasoning and the truth of God’s Word. You are clearly caught up in delusion.

I’m sorry, Dave.


12 posted on 05/22/2011 5:53:09 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: joe fonebone
Making the thread "about" another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.

13 posted on 05/22/2011 8:51:05 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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"There are no amount of good works you can do to "earn" your way to heaven."

The New Decalogue established by Christ says otherwise. These are the Two Greatest Commandments and the eight Beatitudes and thery require you get up off your butt and earn your Salvation.

14 posted on 05/22/2011 9:04:36 PM PDT by Natural Law (Maybe the rapture really did happen and NOBODY made the cut!)
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To: Religion Moderator

Comment was toward author of article...that is why I copied the sentence and put it in italics.....I have found that the people on the religious threads are real sensitive, and some lack basic reasoning ability....


15 posted on 05/23/2011 4:10:02 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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placemarker


16 posted on 05/23/2011 4:27:20 AM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: Natural Law

Whatever it is you’re talking about is unscriptural. There is no “new” revelation from Jesus. You are adding to the Word of God (just like Catholics do), and you are dead wrong in your statements.

Our salvation is by grace alone, through faith in Jesus, and that faith comes from the Lord opening our minds to understand and receive the Word of God. Salvation is a gift of God.

Good works will follow living with the Spirit of Christ in you, but those works do not, never could, “earn” your salvation.

Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”


17 posted on 05/23/2011 6:10:10 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: joe fonebone

No one complained, I misread it.


18 posted on 05/23/2011 6:46:45 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: WXRGina

Well said.


19 posted on 05/23/2011 7:07:14 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: WXRGina
"There is no “new” revelation from Jesus. You are adding to the Word of God (just like Catholics do)..."

It is you who are subtracting from the Word of God (just like Calvinists do). Jesus entire life and every word He spoke was a new revelation because Jesus is the Word incarnate.

I've incessantly heard the Paulian heresy preached by Calvinists that Jesus was a minor player sent only for the Jews and that the true revealer of the Word is Paul, and reject it. As a Christian I see Paul as a follower of Jesus tasked only with spreading and clarifying the message revealed within the Synoptic Gospels.

20 posted on 05/23/2011 9:02:40 AM PDT by Natural Law (Maybe the rapture really did happen and NOBODY made the cut!)
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