Posted on 05/22/2011 6:36:00 PM PDT by markomalley
Hello everyone .. and welcome to the Vortex .. where lies and falsehoods are trapped and exposed .. Im Michael Voris.
As you explore and dig down deeper into the mysteries of the Faith .. the final realities come to full view.
The Catholic Church has always taught on a subject known as the Eschaton thats a Greek word referring to The Four Last Things.
What are the Four Last Things Death Judgment, Heaven and Hell.
In short, when its all said and done, bottom line we will all die, be judged and enter into Heaven or Hell forever.
So since, every human being in the history of the world who has ever lived will be in one or the other .. it pretty much stands to reason .. that either Heaven or Hell will have more occupants so to speak.
Estimates are as of now .. that roughly 11 billion people have lived on earth at one time or another .. including now. And unless the world ends right this minute .. that number will increase.
So .. how many will be in Heaven and how many in Hell? Its not a new question. Some of the greatest saints in the Church have chimed in on this .. and what they have to say is .. well .. sobering.
Heres a sample.
The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love Almighty God. -Saint Alphonsus Maria Liguori, Doctor of the Church
.. on the threshing floor few are the grains carried into the barns, but high are the piles of chaff burned with fire. -Pope Saint Gregory the Great, Father and Doctor of the Church
It is certain that few are saved. -Saint Augustine, Father and Doctor of the Church
Out of one hundred thousand sinners who continue in sin until death, scarcely one will be saved. -Saint Jerome, Father and Doctor of the Church
What I am about to tell you is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with its thousands of inhabitants not one hundred people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that! -Saint John Chrysostom, Father and Doctor of the Church
And on a special note to the clergy .. I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think. I do not think that many priests are saved, but that those who perish are far more numerous. -Saint John Chrysostom, Father and Doctor of the Church
Christ's flock is called "little" (Luke 12:32) in comparison with the greater number of the reprobates. -Saint Bede the Venerable, Father and Doctor of the Church
The greater part of men will set no value on the blood of Christ, and will go on offending Him. -Saint Isidore of Seville, Father and Doctor of the Church
How few the Elect are may be understood from the multitude being cast out. -Saint Hilary of Poitiers, Father and Doctor of the Church
The majority of men shall not see God, excepting those who live justly, purified by righteousness and by every other virtue. -Saint Justin the Martyr
There are a select few who are saved. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church
And not to belabor a point .. but we hear this so infrequently .. if ever at all from the very people .. bishops and priests .. whos solemn duty is to tell us this .. that we feel we indeed NEED to labor over this point.
One final quote ..
The number of the elect is so small so small that, were we to know how small it is, we would faint away with grief: one here and there, scattered up and down the world! -Saint Louis Marie de Montfort
This isnt meant to frighten or terrify people .. its meant to wake us up so we can avoid Hell. If most people goes to hell .. the vast majority of people go to Hell .. which seems to be the consensus among the greatest minds of the Church .. then they perish because they choose to.
Our Blessed Lord established the Catholic Church as the ark to save whoever .. whoever would come into it before their time runs out. Either we believe this .. or we dont. Death .. Judgment .. Heaven or Hell. We cant choose the first two .. but the second two are entirely up to us.
GOD Love you. Im Michael Voris.
Since you are clearly not Catholic, I guess you must be Orthodox then?
Or do you not know what a caucus thread means?
So you only pop in every few months to post and randomly choose a Catholic Caucus thread to bash Catholics? What name do you post under the other 360 days of the year?
My recommendation is to go ahead and stick the R. Mod’s rules right in the first post. It won’t matter to some, and more still will skip it, but a few will catch it.
Freegards
What becomes of Lady Julian of Norwich, who seemed to imply (at least according to a line in C.S. Lewis about her) that everyone would eventually be saved?
(Less 'satisfying' to some, given the atrocities in the world, but in keeping with the parable of the vineyard "is your eye evil because I am good" type of thinking.)
Cheers!
Well, it’s a start. It would probably be better if it was flashing, and contained the actual text; many will not click on a link, even if you would say “click this link before you post to this thread!”
Freegards, thanks for all the pings
I have great respect for St. Augustine—I don’t know the rest of the folks quoted. But I think it’s a little presumptuous of them to claim to know how Jesus will judge. The right to make final judgement was given to Him, not men, not saints, and certainly not me.
"MANY are called, but FEW are chosen."
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