Hi. I'm Jeff. [Internet profile of a mormon.]

To: Normandy; johngrace

Latter-day Saints believe and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

And johngrace mormons also believe that heavenly father - a god separate from Jesus, also spent time in the flesh before progressing to godhood and eventually procreating with one of his goddess wives the spirit child Jesus.

101 posted on 10/04/2011 4:17:45 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)

To: Godzilla; Normandy; johngrace

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Which makes the LDS ‘god’ not eternal and also a sinner. Don’t forget ‘zilla they also had Lucifer right after Jesus.

And, of course, we can source those teachings from LDS apostles and prophets.

102 posted on 10/04/2011 5:26:05 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)

Hi Reaganaut,

We do believe in the Christ of the Bible — He is the only Christ. The Book of Mormon is another testament of that very same Jesus Christ. He ministered to a nation of believers in a different geographic location who kept records of His teachings and revelations. Latter Day Saints believe in scripture additional to the Bible — but that doesn’t mean we reject the Bible. On the contrary.

Best,

Normandy

103 posted on 10/04/2011 7:09:14 PM PDT by Normandy

To: Normandy; reaganaut

We do believe in the Christ of the Bible

In word only, not in reality.

He ministered to a nation of believers in a different geographic location who kept records of His teachings and revelations.

A fictional account at best - poorly written plagiarism in reality. Where is the evidence Norm? Not even mormons agree where this occurred - and those mormon 'archaeologists' who make claims are almost always associated with ufos.

but that doesn’t mean we reject the Bible.

Except you have to caveat its use don't you and claim its plain and precious parts have been removed.

104 posted on 10/04/2011 7:19:54 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)

Thank you; I have many Mormon friends and acquaintances in the local GOP/ They are wonderful to work with; dedicated to their families and their country.

It galls me that people can be so venomous because they do not agree with one’s religious beliefs.

105 posted on 10/04/2011 7:23:45 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert

No Norm, it isn’t and they aren’t. If there was only ONE Christ like you claim then we wouldn’t have been warned about FALSE Christs.

The Christ of the Bible isn’t created, was always God, was never married, and wasn’t conceived by sex between God and Mary. The Christ of the Bible isn’t a mass murderer who brags about killing the unrighteous (as the Mormon Jesus did in 3 Nephi). That is the LDS “Christ”. Even your own prophets state you don’t believe in the same Christ as Christians.

The LDS only accept the Bible ‘as far as it is translated correctly’ you left that out. They denigrate the Bible that way. I can give you quotes where your leaders totally trash the Bible. Just the fact that you claim the NEED for additional scripture denigrates the Bible.

However, thanks for giving more examples about how the LDS lie and twist things to make ‘the Church’ look good.

106 posted on 10/04/2011 8:08:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)

To: DLfromthedesert

It galls me that people can be so venomous because they do not agree with one’s religious beliefs.
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Are you a Christian? If so then you should believe in the great commission. This isn’t about simple ‘disagreement’ this about getting people out of an evil cult. No one here hates Mormons, but we hate Mormonism and the damage and lies the LDS church tells its members and outsiders.

BTW, I used to be Mormon. Being a nice person doesn’t make you right with God. Also those ‘nice people’ are most likely lying to you about their beliefs. Been there done that.

107 posted on 10/04/2011 8:11:47 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)

To: Saundra Duffy

I do not worship any prophet.

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

108 posted on 10/04/2011 8:33:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Saundra Duffy

I do not worship any prophet.

In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

109 posted on 10/04/2011 8:34:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Latter-day Saints believe and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

So?

What about all the OTHER things that MORMONs 'believe'?

110 posted on 10/04/2011 8:35:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Latter-day Saints believe and confess that God the FATHER has come in the flesh.

111 posted on 10/04/2011 8:36:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

He ministered to a nation of believers in a different geographic location who kept records of His teachings and revelations.

They did a mighty poor job, for no EVIDENCE of them can be found of them ANYWHERE!

112 posted on 10/04/2011 8:38:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: DLfromthedesert

It galls me that people can be so venomous because they do not agree with one’s religious beliefs.

Yeah; but what can you do?

52,000 +/- of the little minions pounding on doors all day long. You'd think their poison pits would run dry!

113 posted on 10/04/2011 8:39:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: DLfromthedesert

You’re very welcome.

114 posted on 10/05/2011 3:57:22 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)

He sounds like a responsible nice guy and good father that provides for his family.

Ephesians 6:4 (NIV)

Fathers, do not exasperate your children;
instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.

Of the Lord; not the MORMON Religious Organization.

115 posted on 10/05/2011 10:38:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: MHGinTN; reaganaut

Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie. That attributes motive, the intent to deceive. It is "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

116 posted on 10/05/2011 10:54:24 AM PDT by Religion Moderator

To: Religion Moderator

If Duffy can substantiate this accusation, I will go even further and humbly apologize:

Anyway, they have already taken it upon themselves to condemn me and every other member of my Church to hell. Saundra Duffy

117 posted on 10/05/2011 11:17:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)

This is just one of the "profiles" that is or will be flooding the internet in the effort by the mormon church to build up the brand, Mormons "R" Us, (Oh and BTW we are Christians just like "U".

It's not just the internet, I've seen Mormon ads on TV in Dallas and Austin. I'm assuming the same Mormon ads popping up in YouTube are the ones they are running on TV. Don't think it's a coincidence that I'm seeing a lot just as the primaries are getting hot and heavy.

118 posted on 10/05/2011 11:40:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr

Don't think it's a coincidence that I'm seeing a lot just as the primaries are getting hot and heavy.

I agree.

119 posted on 10/06/2011 7:09:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, AmericaÂ’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)

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