Posted on 12/11/2011 5:59:43 PM PST by rzman21
In the New Testament we find that communication changed. First in the form of Jesus presence on earth and after His resurrection the promised presence of the Holy Spirit indwelling all true believers. No longer is there a cohesive group with a hierarchy of priests with only one central figure allowed into the presence of God and that only once a year. We now have all believers, designated priests, who have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the ability to go before the throne of God in Jesus name.
Men always have had the free will to do as they will.. no one will will to repent without God grace
Grace is Gods UNMERITED favor.. So noah did not deserve to be favored.. he was a sinner like the rest of humanity
No, I refer directly to replies by FR Catholics to the Religion Forum over the past year or two, calling the Apostle Paul crazy and denigrating the value of the books of the Bible written by him.
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Sorry, ONE, and only one Catholic had an issue with Paul and got no agreements with any other Catholics. I saw the thread where it happened.
I also knew that in the future some of the more nefarious anti-Catholics would take one person’s personal opinion and try to make it the “Catholic position”.
I watched for it and sure enough I saw this tactic used by the usual suspects.
Anyone who saw the thread and subsequent references to it and still try to say Catholics, instead of one Catholic (singular) are simply engaging in an untruth by using the plural “Catholics”.
That was me you are posting about, and you could have had the decency to ping me.
I was talking about the time before I was a Christian, reading the Bible in multiple translations. I also was coming from a Jewish background. Yes, I made some derogatory comments about Paul. My opinion of him has not changed. I respect the Catholic position about him, that he is a saint. and your reference to all Catholics doew not take into account the reality of the Catholic position.
No other Catholic agreed with me, several went out of their way to disagree, and referencing a thread from last APRIL, for heaven’s sake, is very dumb, in my opinion. It has nothing to do with your thin-skinned arguments here.
No. It was me.
Thanks. The more I read of the usual suspects, the less I respect any of their positions on anything/
>>>>>I watched for it and sure enough I saw this tactic used by the usual suspects
Almost every single one of them.
Well, you'll still need to keep your eyes peeled in the future, because you'll see Protestants derided as "Paulicians," and you'll see the books of the Bible written by Paul denigrated and devalued. Judith Anne may have been the most egregious example, however she is not alone as you both now contend.
It's all very odd to me. It's not as if the Apostle Paul wasn't Apostle to the Gentiles or anything. The whole thing seems rather contrived, and yes, it's an ongoing thing, not merely my picking up a single instance of blatant Biblical illiteracy and running with it, and rubbing your collective noses in it forevermore.
I've also seen people deride the very Biblical description of Jesus Christ as the Second Adam, calling it some crazy Protestant idea. That was Judith Anne, too, but there are others who have implied as much. I've also been told I'll be judged by the pope when I die. All here on FR. On the whole, your group really does not exhibit that much evidence of Biblical literacy, and that is a travesty. Rather than launch a sectarian counterattack as has apparently always been the case, perhaps you all should pull out your Bibles and verify for yourselves as the Bereans did.
You yourself are not a very frequent visitor here that I recall, word_warrior_bob. It's somewhat puzzling as to why you'd go dredging up a reply of mine from, what, several weeks ago, ping your own newfound gaggle of usual suspects to it and start piling on.
Slow night or something?
You yourself are not a very frequent visitor here that I recall, word_warrior_bob. It’s somewhat puzzling as to why you’d go dredging up a reply of mine from, what, several weeks ago, ping your own newfound gaggle of usual suspects to it and start piling on.
Slow night or something?
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Infrequent poster does not mean infrequent visitor ;)
It was roughly a week old post I believe, not “several”, nonetheless I still thought I would point out the mischaracterization in your post. Perhaps helping you clarify the actual Catholic position for your edification as I’m sure you would not want to post anything misleading about your Catholic friends here and possibly lose any credibility with anyone. I’m sure it was just an honest mistake :)
As I mentioned I was reading that thread and knew that the more nefarious anti-Catholics on this board would eventually take that one person’s opinion and use it to try and badmouth Catholics and try and present the untruthful insinuation that that was what Catholics thought of Paul.
Sorry you got your hand caught in the cookie jar.
I pinged ONE person, how that qualifies as a “newfound gaggle of usual suspects” is beyond me and the accusation of “piling on” is puzzling as well. As you can see the only person I pinged was the singular Catholic who had issue with Paul(who you didn’t ping)which she has subsequently explained.
Thin skin or something?
>>>>I’ve also seen people deride the very Biblical description of Jesus Christ as the Second Adam, calling it some crazy Protestant idea. That was Judith Anne, too, but there are others who have implied as much. I’ve also been told I’ll be judged by the pope when I die.
Both tose statements are false, and now I have lost all respect for you due to your lack of integrity. I see no reason for ANY Catholic to ever try to have an honest conversation with someone who is known to spread falsehoods so lavishly,
No FR screen name mentioned, ergo no need to ping. I suppose I could ping a blank “to:” field to appease those who are perpetually seeking offense. Would that keep the screeching harpies at bay? If so, I’ll reconsider, even though it’s just about as functional as pinging “all.”
Speaking of thin-skinned, who comes screeching onto a thread demanding someone be pinged when there is no screen name in evidence, lol? It’s novel. It’s amusing. Doesn’t make much logical sense, though, not even to a legalist, so I’m baffled.
I note you don’t address the very noticable Biblical illiteracy among Catholics as a whole. Really, wouldn’t it be much easier to just crack a Bible, or is that a problem? The Gideons can help. It’s going to be KJV though. Quite a lovely, poetic, almost Shakespearean translation, in the opinion of most of the English speaking world.
I also note that you don’t address the ongoing derision of Prostestants as “Paulicians.” I take that you don’t contest this. It would be difficult to contest if you tried.
They’re not false statements, Judith Anne.
Maybe you might run a lead in to your posts.
Since they were all antiCatholic, perhaps we should consider it.
The Gideons can help. Its going to be KJV though. Quite a lovely, poetic, almost Shakespearean translation, in the opinion of most of the English speaking world.
Don't forget to strap that gay on.
I’ve always envisioned an elderly group of clergy huddled around a computer, diligently searching for a photo to post and just not quite getting it, with your efforts MarkBsnr. I miss your charming, antique LOLcatz.
Care to hold forth on “Paulicians” again tonight, or would that undermine your fellows too badly?
I must up my game to your exacting standards.
Care to hold forth on Paulicians again tonight, or would that undermine your fellows too badly?
Actaully, you are doing all the work for me, for which I must express my appreciation.
I wouldn’t want to know what’s going on in that mind of yours, if you think that is even remotely appropriate to post to the religion forum.
I wasn't the one posting swishy descriptions of a particular translation of the Bible to the RF.
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