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Mary: Mother of God?
What Does the Bible say? ^ | 01/11/2012 | Bro. Lev Humphries,

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7

Mary: Mother of God?

This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."

This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.

Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?

The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.

Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."

The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."

The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".

This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."

It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: blessedvirginmary; calvinismisdead; divinity; humanity; ignoranceisbliss; mariolatry; mary; motherofgod; nestorianheresy; nestorians; perpetualvirginity; theotokos
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To: BlueDragon
At least they were opposed??? By killing them? Nowhere is the directive given to do that. Put the axe down. The damage that is done with that method is beyond comprehension. Vengeance is the Lord's. To try to take it for him, makes one both a murderer, and a thief. One cannot covert dead bodies. But if one's aim is to let all here know about the raw hatred, and remind us all of the implicit threat of violence to those who dare resist the papists, then I must say you are doing a fine job.

I am grateful for the compliment. Heretics, no matter how well intentioned will be Judged to hell. Scripture is clear.

The sneering, snarling hatreds have been re-invigorated in the last few months. One need not a particular gifting in the discernment of spirits, to recognize what spirits are behind the carnality.

Very good. I believe that Asmodeus, one of the princes of hell, was the principal demon behind the Reformation. Since nothing of the netherworld is worth anything over time but only for the moment, it is unraveling as the 'churches' of the Reformation show. I will remind you too, of the Popes versus the various televangelists, their various demeanours.

There is only one true God.

Peter is the apprentice of Jesus.

The Pope prays to God.

The children of the Reformation pray on peoples' souls.


1,521 posted on 01/16/2012 7:11:37 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: caww
I have great concerns for those who get "caught up" in this Maryology...even in the least bit. It always appears to lead people away from Christ and she becomes central...if He is spoken of it's generally after the fact as if speaking His name sanctions these acts of worhip, or adoration, or what ever they choose to call it.

You never see Jesus and his mother Mary...

It's always, Mary the Mother of God and her Son...

1,523 posted on 01/16/2012 7:21:36 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
that’s ok, the devil has been trying to destroy the Church for 2,000 years, unfortunately, the Holy Spirit won’t let him!

The Devil does not want to destroy your religion...But God will handle it as reported in Revelation 17...

1,524 posted on 01/16/2012 7:23:49 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
isn’t it interesting that only non-Catholics say Catholics worship Mary?

That's because it doesn't matter what name you put on it...We know worship when we see it...

1,525 posted on 01/16/2012 7:29:24 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: CynicalBear

***“became the new Israel” is NOT saying they “joined” Israel.***

You are right, it’s not because that is not what Scripture says, it ways “grafted on” and “adopted” .

It is a new creation, born out of the new covenant, which is Jesus.


1,527 posted on 01/16/2012 7:38:00 AM PST by Jvette
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To: smvoice

LOL, admit it.

Peter did NOT stay in Jerusalem, did he?

And, why would Jesus send Peter to Cornelius, why Peter and not Paul?


1,528 posted on 01/16/2012 7:43:21 AM PST by Jvette
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To: MarkBsnr; Cronos

Ping


1,529 posted on 01/16/2012 7:48:06 AM PST by aruanan
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To: smvoice

Why didn’t God pour out His wrath on the nation at that point?

What happened to Jerusalem in 70AD?

And what has NOT happened in Jerusalem since that time?

And what happened to the nation Israel since?

Jerusalem, Israel, they are a microcosm of first, the promises and covenants of God with His people. Second, we can look to them to see what is in store for us if we, like they, reject God’s covenant.


1,530 posted on 01/16/2012 7:54:20 AM PST by Jvette
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To: MarkBsnr

Whatever...


1,531 posted on 01/16/2012 7:55:18 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: aruanan

Sea of confusion.


1,533 posted on 01/16/2012 8:00:54 AM PST by Jvette
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To: aruanan
....while Roman Catholic apologist often attack evangelicals based upon their reliance upon fallible human reasoning, however prayerful — an infirmity which the supreme magisterium of Rome asserts they are immune from when speaking in accordance with their infallibly-defined criteria — .....yet the Catholic himself makes a fallible decision to submit to Rome,..... which use of 'fallible human reasoning' he also engages in when interpreting what Rome has taught, including which teachings are indeed infallible in which was are not,.... in which he cannot be absolutely sure.

And here's the truly funny thing: Person A believes that Person B, because of his position in an apostolic succession going back to Jesus and his charge to his apostles, can speak infallibly on matters of faith and doctrine (though it's happened only twice since the 19th century). Person C scoffs and says that's an example of "fallible human reasoning" while granting to himself, supposedly through the guidance of God's Spirit that he denies to Person B, an interpretation of both scripture and God's will that he, Person C, regards to be at least if not more accurate than that promulgated by Person B and believed by Person A. Just who is being the more credulous?

When the whole point of things is to promote the religion of the self, why then, anything goes.

1,534 posted on 01/16/2012 8:03:03 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: caww

Exactly which of the many titles belong to Christ?

Queen of Angels? Queen of Heaven? Mystical Rose?

Really? LOL


1,535 posted on 01/16/2012 8:05:41 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette

Acts, Chapter 9 will tell you why GOd did not pour out His wrath on the Nation at that point. Romans through Philemon will tell you why God did not pour out His wrath on the nation at that time.


1,536 posted on 01/16/2012 8:06:57 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: MarkBsnr

It’s your story...Tell it any way you want...


1,537 posted on 01/16/2012 8:06:57 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: smvoice

As usual, deflect, dodge and produce a rabbit you want me to chase rather than just answering my questions.


1,539 posted on 01/16/2012 8:18:09 AM PST by Jvette
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To: MarkBsnr

Good post although we RC’s have to be careful. Take a look at the Fr. Corapi controversy. Have said that, at least Fr. Corapi had to submit to the authority of the Church. To whom does Osteen or Swaggart submit?


1,540 posted on 01/16/2012 8:21:55 AM PST by phil413
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