Posted on 01/15/2012 10:10:29 PM PST by bibletruth
1 Timothy 2:5 ...one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
If there is a debate here then it must follow Bible Scriptures to advocate reproofs, corrections, and instructions on how God the Father has ordained and appointed someone other than HIS SON Christ Jesus as that mediator. In light of 1 Timothy 2:5 - there is no debate here since God's Word clearly points out that that mediator is is Christ Jesus, who has been appointed 2,000 years ago between God and men.
If there is a debate here then it must follow Bible Scriptures to advocate reproofs, corrections, and instructions on how God the Father has ordained and appointed someone other than HIS SON Christ Jesus as that mediator. In light of 1 Timothy 2:5 - there is no debate here since God's Word clearly points out that that mediator is the ONE mediator which is Christ Jesus, who has been appointed 2,000 years ago between God and men.
If you believe in God's Word, who is Christ Jesus: THE Word of God, then 1 Timothy 2:5 will be easily be understood as Christ the mediator.
And then you will understand that Biblically, that that mediator is NOT the vicar of Christ, i.e., the Catholic vicar of Christ in which his supreme headship is over the entire church on earth.
Nor is that mediator Mary as Mediatrix due to Mary's cooperation in the redemption through and under her Son. Mediatrix in itself could refer to either the objective redemption (the once-for-all earning a title to grace for all men), or to the subjective redemption (the distribution of this grace to individual men).
But what does God's Word and will indicate inside the Bible? What can be more simple to understand that God declaring Christ as the one mediator: 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Now what does the WORD OF GOD say regarding this distribution of grace to each and every individual man or woman?
Romans 5:15 ...much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, WHICH IS BY ONE MAN, JESUS CHRIST, hath abounded unto many.
If you believe in God's Word, then this Scripture clearly says: The gift by grace, WHICH IS BY ONE MAN, JESUS CHRIST. It does not say: The gift by grace, WHICH IS BY TWO, JESUS CHRIST and MARY
Furthermore: Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: This Grace is clearly seen in the Bible as distributed of the Lord Jesus Christ for those who are saved.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began
Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
These distributions of God's Grace are clearly seen in the Bible, without mixture, as being distributed solely BY and OF the Lord Jesus Christ for those who are saved.
All these Scripture truths will make perfect sense to those who believe in God's Word, who is Christ Jesus: THE Word of God. Take time to study these Scriptures. In fact, study them before you make a railing post of opposition, otherwise, it is evident that "hearing they hear not, neither do they understand" (Matthew 13:13)
AMEN!!
We pray through the Spirit, so God can hear it, through the Son, God’s only One.
I hear and I understand. Amen to your post!!!!!
Romans 8:26: Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Romans 8:27: And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
I praise God and Christ Jesus for His will in your life and understanding of His will in this matter of 1 (one) mediator which is Christ Jesus, no other god...
AMEN, and AMEN. GOSPEL truth.
Amen & Amen!
“God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.” (1 Corinthians 14:33)
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” (Ephesians 4:4-6)
“Let this mind be in you, which was in Christ Jesus: Wherefore God hath highly exalted Him, and hath given Him a name which is above every name.” (Philippians 2:5....2:9)
For men to put another man or woman above, or equal to God’s Son, and our Saviour is a false doctrine and heresy in the light of God’s Word.
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
“(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)”
is not the Word of God.
To say Mary is the Mother of God would mean that she would pre-date God the Father. God the Father considers a person righteous because of their faith and trust in God, not their individual piety.
Mary was not and is not the, “Mother of God.” She was not sinless, but needed a Savior as the Magnificat states. She faced death as all women do. She is in heaven today because she was redeemed by grace through the redemptive blood of the Savior.
Roman Catholicism eclipses Christ by their unscriptural adoration of Mary.
Martin Luther was a man mightily used by God. But a man after all.
It is praiseworthy that Luther refused Rome for the scriptures so thoroughly. It is not amazing that he was still somewhat influenced by her teachings.
Mary was not and is not the, “Mother of God.”Another Trailer Park Preacher heard from! What odd sect is it that you claim gets it right?
“..and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven...”
I need to get to bed - but as a “protty” - I agree with Luther. Even where he says she was the Mother of God. Obviously not the mother of God the Father, but of God the Son. Jesus was both fully God and fully man - and Mary obviously was His mother.
And obviously Mary DOES have a unique place, and that she was blessed.
Of course as a protty I see no Biblical basis to claim that she was also born from a virgin birth, was sinless, remained a virgin, or did not die. I can understand the need of some folks (Catholics) to try to resolve all of that so it “makes sense”.
And while Mary WAS very special, I don’t understand the viewpoint that we still need to, or perhaps better stated - we can if we wish(?) pray to her to intercede with God for us. That is what the Holy Spirit is for.
I believe, Sir, that you would call even the Savior a, “Trailer Park Preacher.”Mind reading? Not Biblical. Also in this case you are (again) wrong.
Semantics - Jesus was 100% Man and 100% God unless He wasn't Immanuel. Mary gave birth because God willed it and she was obedient. Ergo, while she did not originate God the Father or God the Holy Spirit, she was the mother of God the Son.
Surely ther are more improtant things to argue about - things that will help spread the Word rather than distract folks from it.
And since their is only one mediator he is all I need, in the person of the Holy Spirit, to interpret the scripture he wrote. I need no self important man to do it for me.
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