Posted on 01/15/2012 10:10:29 PM PST by bibletruth
1 Timothy 2:5 ...one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
If there is a debate here then it must follow Bible Scriptures to advocate reproofs, corrections, and instructions on how God the Father has ordained and appointed someone other than HIS SON Christ Jesus as that mediator. In light of 1 Timothy 2:5 - there is no debate here since God's Word clearly points out that that mediator is is Christ Jesus, who has been appointed 2,000 years ago between God and men.
“And since there is only one mediator he is all I need, in the person of the Holy Spirit, to interpret the scripture he wrote. I need no self important man to do it for me.”
That about sums it up.
Emmanuel= God with us, not “God with a select few that are self anointed to interpret scripture”.
“Another Trailer Park Preacher heard from!”
“Can anything good come from Nazareth?”
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Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
She was the mother of Jesus Christ. All Christians believe that Jesus Christ was/is God. Are you saying Jesus Christ isn't God?
Jesus Christ pre-dated her and created her. He was born of His created being. She is in heaven, saved by the one-time sacrifice of Jesus Christ which we participate in, in each Eucharist.
The term Theotokos, God-bearer makes complete sense if one acknowledges that Jesus Christ was/is God, not a subordinate created being. It also emphasises the Trinitarian view.
we have a lot of good Catholic Trailer Park preachers, narses — who work with the poorest of the poor around the world. These still to orthodoxy, the faith taught us by JEsus Christ Himself and handed down through the Apostles.
well said.
or does that way to freely interpret scripture also give license to Church of Christ who preach pelagianism? Or to Oneness Pentecostals who deny the Trinity? Or to Jehovah's Witnesses who deny the divinity of Christ with compelling arguements from scripture? Or to Mormons who interpret scripture their own way "Gods"...?
More clearly, mediator is the “go-between”, and 1 Tim says what has always been believed and is still believed by all of orthodoxy — that all prayers etc. go through Christ alone. Whether those prayers are by you for me, or vice-versa, or the saints, Mary etc. praying to God for us, it all goes through Christ. He is the one-mediator, connector between God and man.
Tome of St. Leo the Great on the Two Natures of Christ
Jesus Christ—True God and True Man (¶422-570) [Catholic Caucus]
**Roman Catholicism eclipses Christ by their unscriptural adoration of Mary.**
Catholics do not adore Mary.
We pray and ask her to intercede with her Son for us.
What are Mary’s last words in the Bible?
“Do whatever he tells you.”
That is not the voice of xomeone eclipsing her son.
Please, do stop believing some of these lies you may have learned.
The Pentacostal church doesn’t deny the trinity.
Or to Catholics who preach non-biblical doctrines like purgatory and Mariology and indulgences, etc. The fact satan invades some churches to teach bad doctrine reinforces the need for each person to call on the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of God's revelation to them personally. One cannot rely on self proclaimed Pastors or Priests - ultimately one of them will Always come along with bad doctrine regardless of the Church or denomination. Father Phlegar of the Catholic Church is a good example as well as certain apostates from every Protestant denominatios. Rely on Jesus not man.
I don’t have a problem with the notion that Christians in Heaven can pray on our behalf. However, I do have a problem with the practice of speaking with Christians in Heaven and requesting them to pray on our behalf.
When a Catholic says that aren’t praying to a departed saint, but are merely asking that saint to pray for them, the Catholic makes an assumption that humans in Heaven aren’t limited as we are here on Earth. It seems like a huge leap to accept that humans in Heaven are able to communicate with every single person on earth, even simultaneously with multiple people on Earth; they would have to be somewhat omniscient.
Heaven is truly a mystery for us, and while I admit I don’t understand all that Heaven will be like, I don’t see why Catholics are convinced that speaking with people in Heaven is fruitful or appropriate.
The "oneness" Pentacostals do, I think he's correct on that.
We need to remember how jesus became our mediator. He became incarnate by the Virgin Mary. We must remember how he continues to mediate, though his chosen ones, which we call the church, guided by “the Finger of the Father,” the Holy Spirit. The Spirit wrote the Law on stone tables, the Spirit writes now on human hearts.
Never heard of the “oneness” pentacostals. I’m referring to Pentacostal Church of God. Church of God believes what the Bible states.
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