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To: Rashputin

It is not I who worships a cracker as my God. I don’t kneel before the symbol of the sun.


765 posted on 01/22/2012 7:33:16 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Luke 22:19 And taking bread, he gave thanks and brake and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me.
Luke 22:20 In like manner, the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

I believe Jesus Christ.

Others are free to play games, babble like children about crackers, wafers, or whatever sort of hokum they prefer to His Word. Such folks often try that sort of thing to divert attention away from their own admission that they do not believe Jesus Christ and, in fact, think Jesus Christ is a liar. Such folks are free to proclaim that they will not "bend a knee", as some say, to anyone or anything other than their own Most High and Holy Self if that's what they prefer to worship rather than Jesus Christ the Son of God, God from God, incarnate in the flesh. Such folks can even burble allusions to the well known lies they routinely repeat, the fables they prefer to Truth, and whatever else they think will hide the fact that they are not Christian since they believe Jesus Christ is a liar. And as everyone knows, if someone believes Jesus Christ is a liar then they cannot be a Christian who believes Jesus Christ is God incarnate. Maybe they believe Christ was just like their fellow voodoo pratitioners and allowed a spirit to ride Him from time to time, maybe like the Watchtower and LDS crowd they believe Christ is one of many gods. They may even believe they are personally god since they do worship their own, Most High and Holy Self. However, if they believe that Jesus Christ lied they do not believe in Jesus Christ as God.

Whatever such repeaters of fables and worshipers of their own Most High and Holy Self believe, I believe Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ said His flesh and His blood are present in our remembrance of Him. Anyone who denies that His flesh and His blood are present in the Eucharist is calling Christ a liar. It makes no difference whether or not someone can understand how God Almighty, the Son of God Jesus Christ incarnate, makes His flesh and His blood present in the Eucharist. Jesus Christ said His flesh and His blood are present in the Eucharist and each person has to decide for themselves whether they believe Jesus Christ or they do not believe Jesus Christ. If they do not believe Jesus Christ and deny that His flesh and His blood are present in the Eucharist, they are calling Jesus Christ the Son of God a liar.

There is no other question. Not whether a communion Host is God or not, whether a recliner becomes a human when someone sits in that recliner, or whether someone likes the idea of His flesh and His blood really being present in the Eucharist. There is only the question of whether someone believes what Jesus Christ Himself said or they do not believe what Jesus Christ Himself said. If they do not believe what Christ said and by not believing call Christ a liar, they are by definition denying the deity of Jesus Christ the Son of God, God from God, incarnate in the flesh as our Savior. A person can accept what Christ says by faith and believe Christ is God, they can accept what Christ says because it's clear and understandable to them and believe Christ is God, or they can deny what Christ says thereby calling Christ a liar who therefore cannot be God. Whether someone accepts or denies what Jesus Christ said is is a question they have to answer for them self.

Understandably, those who worship their own Most High and Holy Self do not have faith in Christ because they have no room for Christ. Sharing Scriptures with such folks is just like throwing pearls before swine. In those cases :

Titus 3:9 but avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law. For they are unprofitable and vain.
Titus 3:10 A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid:
Titus 3:11 Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.

Those who continue to deny the deity of Christ can fool themselves however they like, but they should get used to the idea of hearing, "I never knew you" from the very Jesus Christ they deny is God.

770 posted on 01/23/2012 3:35:12 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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