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Priests Accused of Molesting Children Hiding in Plain Sight
NBC California ^ | 2/11/12 | Frank Snepp and Tara Kangarlou |

Posted on 02/11/2012 10:13:46 AM PST by RnMomof7

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To: lupie
Why, it's on this very thread.

It's obvious to anyone who reads this (and similar) threads with an open mind.

If the folks who are all bent out of shape over molesters who happen to be Catholic are ALSO bent out of shape over molesters who happen to be Protestant they can demonstrate it on this forum.

So far, they have failed to do so.

My statements are not outrageous.

The Protestant blindness to molestation within protestantism is outrageous.

121 posted on 02/13/2012 10:29:01 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Pyro7480
they quickly turn to their real agenda, which is all their various doctrinal “issues” with the Church. Everyone with eyes to see can see through it.

Yet another diversion from the "real issue" of Priestly criminal perverts being protected and enabled to continue with their perversion by their leadership. It just goes on and on...and evidences that STILL the membership is in denial and in the darkness.

The publics eyes are very much opened and if you recall had the media not brought this out into the open nothing would have changed...and that's just a fact.

Church defenders who typically scream about 'anti-Catholic bias' and 'Catholic bashing' have no ground on which to stand....there is unequivocal evidence of massive cover-ups and a failure within the Roman Catholic Church...and today it's members continue to defend and divert attention to something or anything other than the indefensible.

122 posted on 02/13/2012 10:30:13 AM PST by caww
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To: lupie
BTW, I find it very strange that someone can quote verbatim the second part of my post, while appearing utterly oblivious to the first part.

Such apparent obliviousness does not seem to me to be indicative of honest discussion.

FWIW.

123 posted on 02/13/2012 10:31:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: caww

Shouldn’t you be out protesting soldiers’ funerals or something?


124 posted on 02/13/2012 10:42:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of fascists and their parasites.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Protestant blindness to molestation within protestantism is outrageous.

Another baloney statement! There isn't a denomination out there that doesn't address the issue and move toward convicting the offenders when they are discovered....and every Protestant would be up in arms if it weren't addressed.

The fact is the catholic church was a magnet for these perverts because they knew they would be protected and would not face expulsion or criminal charges....and that's been proved in all these investigations. As well that the membership would turn their heads even when they suspected or knew about these criminal acts.

I lived in a community where the membership refused to address their Priest....in fact it was well known the kid he kept company with was his "Boy" toy. When asked why the membership didn't speak up it was said it's just how things have always been...it's not liked but people are afraid to make an issue about it for fear of the repercussions on the church and the Priest they love.

Once again evidencing that the reputation of the church outweighs the memberships concern for the welfare of their children

125 posted on 02/13/2012 10:44:20 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
I observe that when one throws a rock at a pack of mongrels, the dog that is hit yelps.

I am unimpressed by self-righteous whining.

Those protestants who claim to be outraged at child-molesting in protestant circles can prove by directing their outrage there. They can clean up their own house.

Or ... they can continue to prove my point.

126 posted on 02/13/2012 10:47:53 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: caww
Another baloney statement!

BTW, I have not yet made any "baloney statement" ... so I cannot be accused of making "another" one.

Just so's ya know.

127 posted on 02/13/2012 10:51:24 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; lupie; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
I observe that many protestants protest mightily against (accused) child molesters who happen to be Catholic ... and also protest mightily against the mere mention of child molesters who happen not to be Catholic.

So ... it seems that some protestants think that child molesting is perfectly fine ... if the molester happens to be a protestant.

Well, if the same Protestants who protest against mostleting Cathoic priests also protest against molesting Protestant ministers, how can you then conclude that Protestants think that molesting children is fine if the molester is Protestant?

128 posted on 02/13/2012 11:03:05 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
ROFL!!!!

ProtestantISM is so predictable ...

The Pinging of the Swarm ...

The utter failure to comprehend simple English ...

The colossal missing of the point ...

Try again ...

One is inclined to wonder if any of The Swarm are any better at comprehending the English language than (s)he who pinged them.

129 posted on 02/13/2012 11:32:15 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: presently no screen name
This is not a teaching of the Church. If some pedophile pervert said it, that doesn't make it a teachng of the Church, it makes it a deception and a seduction tactic by the pervert. It is in no way, shape or form a Catholic doctrine.

To make it plain: if a child-rapist tells a child, "You're not allowed to disobey me because the Church says you can't disobey a priest," he is telling the child a falsehood--- and in this case, a damnable one.

130 posted on 02/13/2012 11:51:35 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: ArrogantBustard
You said in #108,
So ... it seems that some protestants think that child molesting is perfectly fine ... if the molester happens to be a protestant.

To which I asked (#118)for you to give your proof of that outrageous statement.

And your ambiguous answer to that is: Why, it's on this very thread.

Really? Where??? Which posts? which posters? Please give specific references to such an outrageous claim and why you think they are claing that. And yes, it is an outrageous claim that you make that Protestants think that molesting is fine is the molester is a protestant.

You totally miss the point.

131 posted on 02/13/2012 11:51:45 AM PST by lupie
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To: ArrogantBustard; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

The Swarm?

Oh come now.....

Please keep your terminology straight here. The Swarm, better known as The Calvinist Swarm, is not engaged here. Besides, Metmom is not even a Calvinist.

What I’m seeing here is the utter failure to understand groups here on FR.

Try again.


132 posted on 02/13/2012 11:56:40 AM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: lupie
Read the thread. From the beginning. Pay attention to those who whine about the mere mention of protestant molesters.

Or not.

I don't GAS which you do, and I don't jump through hoops for you.

I merely point out the obvious.

And yes, it is an outrageous claim that you make that Protestants think that molesting is fine is the molester is a protestant.

ROFL!!!

What's outrageous is the protestants who protest the mere mention of protestant molesters.

133 posted on 02/13/2012 11:58:51 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Those protestants

Frankly I won't play the Catholic vs. Protestant game in regards to the catholic churches pedophile/homsexual scandal.....it's not relevant to the fact it's on the catholic churches doorstep to deal with and that IS just the facts.

Attempting to push it off at schools, protestants, the world, attorneys, authors, and the host of other diversions to somehow defend themselves isn't working nor should it. Neither will the comments made on this thread to divert and confuse the issue away from where it belongs.

The catholic church, over decades, supported and enabled the pedophile priests, as an entire institution from the pope on down. Both boys and girls by the thousands were abused over decades, even after being aware of the issue.

Facts are facts and these have been proved in the court of law...that Adult Priests in a positions of power took advantage of children and the entire catholic organization enabled it for decades. .....Even more shameful is that some people still try to deflect the blame..... This is as ugly as it gets.

134 posted on 02/13/2012 12:16:46 PM PST by caww
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To: ArrogantBustard

I didn’t think that you could. It isn’t a matter of jumping through hoops and you know it. And to think that YOU were the one whining about an “honest” discussion. :)


135 posted on 02/13/2012 12:18:55 PM PST by lupie
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To: NakedRampage; Religion Moderator

What’s with the *pronoun removed* phrases?

You are directly demeaning me, but using cute phrases to avoid “technically” doing so. That is not permissible on religion threads. I’ll let the religion moderator decide what to do with you.


136 posted on 02/13/2012 12:22:09 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Pyro7480; metmom; smvoice; boatbums; caww; RnMomof7; Iscool; ...
>>So ... it seems that some protestants think that child molesting is perfectly fine ... if the molester happens to be a protestant.<<

Find one comment by one Protestant who has ever said or intimated that child molestation by anyone is “perfectly fine”. Surely you aren’t making salacious accusations are you?

Now, as to the condemnation of the Catholic Church as per child molestation. Is there any other organization that professes to be headed by Christ’s “vicar” on earth? Is there any other organization on earth that professes to be able to “forgive sins”? Is there any other organization on earth purporting to be Christ’s only church on earth? Given that the Catholic Church makes all of those claims should they be held to higher standards than any other organization?

Claiming superior status then wanting held to the same standards as other organizations is hypocritical.

137 posted on 02/13/2012 12:24:15 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Gamecock

Now it’s time to blame posters for pinging others....lol....does it ever occur to them that we aren’t dpendant on being pinged, but also choose the articles of interest from the sidebars? LOL...

They are really trying hard to divert the topic of this thread.....denial, diversion, and deception might very well be the greater sin in this whole scandal the catholic church brought on itself....God is watching.


138 posted on 02/13/2012 12:24:42 PM PST by caww
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To: lupie
Do try to refrain from making it personal. Really. It's so simple to do. It's almost as simple as reading the first page of posts on this thread.

I have no interest in discussing this thread with anyone who is unwilling or unable to read it.

Bye.

139 posted on 02/13/2012 12:27:10 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: caww
I always appreciate the efforts of those who thoroughly demonstrate my points.
140 posted on 02/13/2012 12:29:40 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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