Saul And The Charismatics...

http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/saul-and-the-charismatics/ ^ | 02-14-12 | Bill Randles

[smvoice]

It's one thing to shout from the mountain tops the "healing of those with enough faith." It's quite another to go onto a thread and face those left behind with shouts of "this person obviously did not have enough faith."

And it's quite another to understand God's Word, God's will, and God's plan. The truth stands or falls on comparing Scripture with Scripture and dispensations with dispensations.

[presently no screen name]

did not have enough faith

Where did I say anything about not having enough faith? I've said we ALL have the same measure of faith - it's a gift! Where are you getting prayer cloths from? Going on a rant?

Do it. I'll give you a thread you can go to right now. Show us your faith in action.

Guess what - YOU do not command me EVER and that is my faith in action! You will have to live with that as you go around whining/complaining and acting like big boss man. Actually, I think it's funny. If you used humility, I wouldn't have anything to chuckle about. 'So count it as all joy" - or is that only for the Jews, also?

[boatbums]

I agree with you both, as well. Here we have a few people on this thread who have come out and basically called everyone who disagreed with their views "blasphemers of the Holy Spirit in danger of hell"; "immature Christians"; "lacking in Biblical faith"; "lacking in anointing"; lacking in the ability to teach or train them in anything; "babblers"; having "no understanding"; putting the Holy Spirit in "ancient, fossil encrusted boxes"; "clueless"; never getting the "light"; lacking in "reading comprehension"; "Surface readers with no meditation"; "TOTALLY clueless on the Power of The Word"; yada, yada, yada. Though rarely have those terms been turned back on them and most here have not questioned their spiritual attributes. Genuine expressions of Christian love have been rejected with additional invective heaped back on the poster for good measure.

Of course, I could go on but what it boils down to REALLY is they just can't tolerate it when someone doesn't see things the same way as they do. ESPECIALLY when it is something they insist they have experienced. Somehow, experience trumps God's word. It "must" be from God, because "I experienced it and how could I experience something if God's hand wasn't in it?!" This thread is going on almost 1000 posts and it has not progressed or advanced from how it first was challenged BY THE SAME PEOPLE!

The problem is NOT that nobody is being heard, the problem is those who are convinced by their experiences refuse to allow others to hold to beliefs ABOUT those experiences that differ from their own. It really is as simple as that! It started out being about the "sign gifts" and their purpose and whether or not the purpose for those gifts has passed, that they have ceased and been removed by God and, if they were stopped, what is going on today with those who demand that they were NOT EVER stopped - though they must admit they are not the same. Perhaps we may not know the ultimate answer until we meet the Lord face to face. I have an idea, though, that that will be the farthest thing from our minds and we will finally put aside our differences and rejoice in the presence of Jesus forever.

[smvoice]

...that’s what I thought...

[presently no screen name]

Ping me when you've done it. Or better yet, we'll all just wait and watch your unswerving "faith" in action.

YOUR time will be better spent meditating on HIS WORD. Sorry to disappoint you but you won't gleeful watch unswerving faith in action unless you use the mirror.

Imagine that - a Christian waiting to see someone unswerving in faith - such a godly thought that is NOT!! Where would that come from? Thanks for showing what you are made of - and how you DON'T WALK the TALK!

PRAISE GOD FOR HIS WORD and that HE IS THE LORD THAT HEALS ME!

[presently no screen name]

I gave you want you KNOW you deserve; so, of course, you thought it.

[smvoice]

You’ve already discredited yourself. And NOW you’re ranting. You are too late to advise. You have no advice to heed. EPIC FAIL.

[presently no screen name]

I gave you WHAT you KNOW you deserve; so, of course, you thought it.

[presently no screen name]

You’ve already discredited yourself.

You are right as I answered you.

And NOW you’re ranting.

I answer the rant with a rant as that's all you understand.

You are too late to advise. You have no advice to heed. EPIC FAIL.

LOL!! YOU are trying to advise me? LOL!!!! You certainly are the funny one along with an unteachable spirit.

[presently no screen name]

You’ve already discredited yourself.

You are right as I answered you.

And NOW you’re ranting.

I answer the rant with a rant as that's all you understand.

You are too late to advise. You have no advice to heed. EPIC FAIL.

LOL!! YOU are trying to advise me? LOL!!!! You certainly are the funny one along with an unteachable spirit.

[smvoice]

WOW. A DOUBLE RANT POST. lol! You seem somewhat knotted up. Careful. It could lead to an ulcer. Which would have to be prayed for by a divine healer. Which may or may not be a charlatan...

[metmom]

Go to a thread where a FReeper is asking for prayer for someone. And that someone is a saved FReeper. And that someone, after prayers, and intercessions, and laying on of hands, and prayer cloths, and faith, faith, faith, dies. I want to see you go on that thread and tell those posters, and the family of that FReeper that this person evidently did not have enough faith. That this person WOULD have been healed "by His stripes" if only this person would have had MORE faith.

Or we can make it easier and you can tell a FReeper right to her face, here and now, that she's not healed because she doesn't have enough faith. That if she did, she'd be able to eat anything she wanted without any reaction of any kind.

I'll be waiting but not holding my breath.

[boatbums]

LOL!! YOU are trying to advise me? LOL!!!! You certainly are the funny one along with an unteachable spirit.

Talking about an "unteachable spirit":

PNSN: You are not qualified to teach me God's Word - so don't try. Not one bit of meditation goes into understanding of His Word as your posts show.
Immaturity = thin skinned.

Just who is it that is "puffed up" and immature here? Here is a test for you: Right this very minute, what are you feeling? Anger or peace? It's not sounding like peace.

[presently no screen name]

WOW. A DOUBLE RANT POST. lol! You seem somewhat knotted up. Careful. It could lead to an ulcer. Which would have to be prayed for by a divine healer. Which may or may not be a charlatan...

How nice of you to show up, AGAIN, and waiting for an ulcer. Always waiting for something evil to happen so you can rejoice in it! You are a riot as you expose yourself.

You remind me of...when Jesus went to eat in the house of a prominent Pharisee, he was being carefully watched.

I posted doing things of importance and gave LESS attention to the least important - and that's where you came in. So you can cease your giddy dance.

And what's this about a divine healer? I have the Spirit within, I don't need another! You really need to get a grip, you keep trying and failing.

I'd say it's time for you to go back and play in the mud. And get another handful and sling it around - that's your expertise.

[presently no screen name]

LAUGHING!!!

[boatbums]

LAUGHING!!!

In anger or from a peaceful heart? Or, likely, in derision?

[presently no screen name]

What's wrong, metmom, you are so in NEED of confirming your faith, you DEMAND a face to face blessing from me?

Go back to the one who told you that or get over it and count it all joy. Pick the easier one. we can make it easier

[presently no screen name]

What’s it to you? LOL!! Are YOU trying to search my heart? LOL!!!

Are you peeking around corners or over fences and seeing what some are up to and drawing your own conclusions? That’s the picture I have of you - nosy neighbor.

[smvoice]

I think it’s more like wailing and gnashing. Because poor pnsn’s hand was called. And she had nothin’. All that talk, and nothing. Striking out at others because she failed at what she so brazenly and continually bragged about. For 1000 posts, that’s all we heard. Too bad, pnsn, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em. And know when to walk away. And STUDY the Word of Truth instead of FEELING the “spirit” in your bosom.