Posted on 03/06/2012 4:44:41 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
If you believe in prophecy, then the technology is irrelevant. It's going to happen with our without it. Technology is just a tool, and has the same potential for good in your hand that it might for evil in someone else's.
What is possible doesn't always line up with what people actually do. You know that.
In every generation there are those who choose to live in the End Times.
Just an interesting thought: The word antichrist does not occur in Revelation. What, in Revelation, is called the beast is what many mean when they use the word antichrist.
Jesus attracted such crowds that satan knew that if he could use him as a tool he could rule the world back then, Jesus did not go for it so satan uses people of prominence where ever he can find them.
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
The high places must be here on earth because satan and his angels were kicked out of heaven when Jesus was taken to heaven.
rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The high places are in government whether it be secular government church government or any other kind of government clubs, etc. i do not mean that all of them are with satan but that is what satan is after for his use.
In view of the fact that death is always very near, it really is always the end times. However there are undeniable and unprecedented things which have happened that mark this time as different, whether we choose it or not, such as the re-emergence of Israel.
—I believe anti Christ is referring to the spirit of satan while the beast is the tool that he uses.—
That is how I see it as well.
History shows that not one of them has ever been correct.
In view of the fact that death is always very near, it really is always the end times.
The difference is whether be believe what we do will matter in the lives of our children and grandchildren. If you really believe it’s the End Times, then it won’t, and believing that will change what you do.
You would not encourage any one to live in satans world so they would have a chance to live, would you? Satans people are going to go to eternal death.
Actually, I just did a double check. The Message version does use the word antichrist in 1 John just as other versions do, but where they say lawless one, etc. it says
—Does it say anarchist in the scriptures that have been translated of old or is that some ones new translation?—
Its in “The Message” translation. That said, the phrase translated “lawless one” in other versions is translated “anarchist” in that version. An anarchist is, by definition, lawless, so it does work. The only problem is that it is also used commonly as a label with more broad meanings.
It’s my understanding that the REAL end of this world has to be at least 1,007 years away. You have the 7 year Tribulation and the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth first. Now the end of the Age of Grace can happen anytime, and I believe that is before the tribulation.
Does it say anarchist in the scriptures that have been translated of old or is that some ones new translation?
Its in The Message translation. That said, the phrase translated lawless one in other versions is translated anarchist in that version. An anarchist is, by definition, lawless, so it does work. The only problem is that it is also used commonly as a label with more broad meanings.
True, but For anyone to live the Christian life in any age requires a miracle of grace- “the whole world lies in the wicked one”
I believe in prophecy. It says that evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse. Evil has made tremendous gains in corrupting the minds of people in just my lifetime. The embracing of evolution, abortion, sexual misconduct of all kinds, has changed our society for the worse, much worse.
In my 57 yrs, I have seen my, rural, west central IL community transform from strongly conservative in all aspects, into a liberal leaning, “what’s in it for me” mentality. A neighboring farmer I’ve known all my life has become pro-abortion, anti-gun, anti-war, pro-big government. His daughter was recently mugged on college campus in Peoria. She lost her purse and cell phone, but was only bruised. He was glad she didn’t have a gun, “because it might have been used on her”. Even if she had been raped, he was not for her having even a knife. He’s an example of the liberal cowardice that has taken over many. His kind would surrender, rather than defend his own family. This is the type of community that was completely the opposite to that mindset just two generations ago. Now, the brave God-fearing men in this community are certainly a minority, it seems.
Thanks, I like your last quote about in the end it will all be seen to be obvious- It is the sam way with Jesus’ first coming- we read the gospels and wonder why they couldn’t see it
I agree with you. That’s why “anarchist” is not my favorite way of translating it.
In fact, to be blunt, it is as if the original text is translated to mean “lawless one” an then The Message version translates that to “Anarchist”, streamlining - but also confusing - the meaning. Lawless one is very clear. Anarchist needs to be looked up. And then you discover it means “lawless one”, among other things.
Do a search on the word “mansions” in the KJV (In my Father’s house are many mansions) and you will find that the word from which it was translated really means “room or dwelling place”. No other version translates it to “mansions”. And I don’t think they should. It would be like translating a phrase that says “In my dad’s garage are a lot of cars” to actually say, “in my dad’s garage are a lot of limousines.”
I don’t know why they used that word, other than to imply that it is better than anywhere we could live on earth. But that should be communicated via the rest of the scripture.
Neve
I agree with you. Thats why anarchist is not my favorite way of translating it.
In fact, to be blunt, it is as if the original text is translated to mean lawless one an then The Message version translates that to Anarchist, streamlining - but also confusing - the meaning. Lawless one is very clear. Anarchist needs to be looked up. And then you discover it means lawless one, among other things.
Do a search on the word mansions in the KJV (In my Fathers house are many mansions) and you will find that the word from which it was translated really means room or dwelling place. No other version translates it to mansions. And I dont think they should. It would be like translating a phrase that says In my dads garage are a lot of cars to actually say, in my dads garage are a lot of limousines.
I dont know why they used that word, other than to imply that it is better than anywhere we could live on earth. But that should be communicated via the rest of the scripture.
Neve
I think that if i am saved i would consider the place where i was going to be a mansion or castle or something more than what i have here.
I have a room or dwelling place here, and believe me what ever i have in the fathers house will be a mansion to me, not disagreeing with you but i have read several other versions and i trust the KJV more than i do the others.
I’m the same age, and have many of the same circumstances. I came to a different conclusion, but I didn’t start with the premise that it’s all about me and my life.
That still leaves us with the same deal everyone before us got. I don't see us having any claim to special circumstance.
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