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Interesting Times?...Actually, the End Times
http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/interesting-times-actually-it-is-the-end-times/ ^ | 03-07-12 | Bill Randles

Posted on 03/06/2012 4:44:41 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

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To: Zuriel
Right, and my point being that evil presently has the tools, like never before, to bring ‘the end’ upon the world.

If you believe in prophecy, then the technology is irrelevant. It's going to happen with our without it. Technology is just a tool, and has the same potential for good in your hand that it might for evil in someone else's.

81 posted on 03/07/2012 5:34:02 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
I don’t accept your premise, i believe that it is possible to live as though Christ is coming today, and also to live in such a way to pass on a legacy of faith to my seed.

What is possible doesn't always line up with what people actually do. You know that.

82 posted on 03/07/2012 5:36:37 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

In every generation there are those who choose to live in the End Times.


Right, and also there are those who can not see it, most being not old enough to have seen any thing, but come to think of it things are changing so fast it should not take any one very many years to be able to see it.


83 posted on 03/07/2012 6:00:04 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Bellflower
Don't you think that you are a thousand years too soon with the end? The real end doesn't happen until the end of the millennium when once again many of the world, under the inspiration of a released Satan, go marching against Israel, are annihilated and then the brand new earth and heavens replace the old. Now that war just might last only six or seven days.

It's my understanding that the REAL end of this world has to be at least 1,007 years away. You have the 7 year Tribulation and the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth first. Now the end of the Age of Grace can happen anytime, and I believe that is before the tribulation.
84 posted on 03/07/2012 6:17:14 AM PST by crosshairs
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To: cuban leaf

Just an interesting thought: The word “antichrist” does not occur in Revelation. What, in Revelation, is called the “beast” is what many mean when they use the word “antichrist”.


I believe anti Christ is referring to the spirit of satan while the beast is the tool that he uses.

Jesus attracted such crowds that satan knew that if he could use him as a tool he could rule the world back then, Jesus did not go for it so satan uses people of prominence where ever he can find them.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The high places must be here on earth because satan and his angels were kicked out of heaven when Jesus was taken to heaven.

rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

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And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The high places are in government whether it be secular government church government or any other kind of government clubs, etc. i do not mean that all of them are with satan but that is what satan is after for his use.


85 posted on 03/07/2012 6:25:34 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: pastorbillrandles

In view of the fact that death is always very near, it really is always the end times. However there are undeniable and unprecedented things which have happened that mark this time as different, whether we “choose” it or not, such as the re-emergence of Israel.


You got that right, we do not have the choice in this world except to get on satans band wagon thinking we are safe, or be willing to die for Christ and live, i hope i have the faith or guts or what ever you want to call it to choose the latter.


86 posted on 03/07/2012 6:36:54 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: ravenwolf

—I believe anti Christ is referring to the spirit of satan while the beast is the tool that he uses.—

That is how I see it as well.


87 posted on 03/07/2012 6:39:29 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: oldenuff2no

History shows that not one of them has ever been correct.


Maybe you should study history a little better, like Reagan told carter, there you go again.


88 posted on 03/07/2012 6:42:20 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: tacticalogic

In view of the fact that death is always very near, it really is always the end times.

The difference is whether be believe what we do will matter in the lives of our children and grandchildren. If you really believe it’s the End Times, then it won’t, and believing that will change what you do.


I do not see why it would change anything, you either believe God or you don,t and try your best to live accordingly, as far as Children and grand Children are concerned why would you teach them anything but what you thought was the truth?

You would not encourage any one to live in satans world so they would have a chance to live, would you? Satans people are going to go to eternal death.


89 posted on 03/07/2012 6:53:04 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: cuban leaf

Actually, I just did a double check. The Message version does use the word “antichrist” in 1 John just as other versions do, but where they say “lawless one”, etc. it says “”


Does it say anarchist in the scriptures that have been translated of old or is that some ones new translation?


90 posted on 03/07/2012 7:06:53 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: ravenwolf

—Does it say anarchist in the scriptures that have been translated of old or is that some ones new translation?—

Its in “The Message” translation. That said, the phrase translated “lawless one” in other versions is translated “anarchist” in that version. An anarchist is, by definition, lawless, so it does work. The only problem is that it is also used commonly as a label with more broad meanings.


91 posted on 03/07/2012 7:13:04 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: crosshairs

It’s my understanding that the REAL end of this world has to be at least 1,007 years away. You have the 7 year Tribulation and the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth first. Now the end of the Age of Grace can happen anytime, and I believe that is before the tribulation.


I believe the thousand years has been here and gone, it is evidenced by the 1000 or (1290 is more appropiate )years of the holy roman empire with more kings and priests than you could shake a stick at.


92 posted on 03/07/2012 7:20:29 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: cuban leaf

—Does it say anarchist in the scriptures that have been translated of old or is that some ones new translation?—

Its in “The Message” translation. That said, the phrase translated “lawless one” in other versions is translated “anarchist” in that version. An anarchist is, by definition, lawless, so it does work. The only problem is that it is also used commonly as a label with more broad meanings.


Ok, i think i see what you mean but some times if we obey Gods laws we may have to disobey mans laws, so i think anarchist would apply in a different sense, in other words a lawless one in regards to our society could be called an anarchist, but it may just be some one who refused to disobey the word of God so would not be a lawless one where God is concerned.


93 posted on 03/07/2012 7:35:27 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: tacticalogic

True, but For anyone to live the Christian life in any age requires a miracle of grace- “the whole world lies in the wicked one”


94 posted on 03/07/2012 7:38:26 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: tacticalogic

I believe in prophecy. It says that evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse. Evil has made tremendous gains in corrupting the minds of people in just my lifetime. The embracing of evolution, abortion, sexual misconduct of all kinds, has changed our society for the worse, much worse.

In my 57 yrs, I have seen my, rural, west central IL community transform from strongly conservative in all aspects, into a liberal leaning, “what’s in it for me” mentality. A neighboring farmer I’ve known all my life has become pro-abortion, anti-gun, anti-war, pro-big government. His daughter was recently mugged on college campus in Peoria. She lost her purse and cell phone, but was only bruised. He was glad she didn’t have a gun, “because it might have been used on her”. Even if she had been raped, he was not for her having even a knife. He’s an example of the liberal cowardice that has taken over many. His kind would surrender, rather than defend his own family. This is the type of community that was completely the opposite to that mindset just two generations ago. Now, the brave God-fearing men in this community are certainly a minority, it seems.


95 posted on 03/07/2012 7:38:34 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: D-fendr

Thanks, I like your last quote about in the end it will all be seen to be obvious- It is the sam way with Jesus’ first coming- we read the gospels and wonder why they couldn’t see it


96 posted on 03/07/2012 7:41:32 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: ravenwolf

I agree with you. That’s why “anarchist” is not my favorite way of translating it.

In fact, to be blunt, it is as if the original text is translated to mean “lawless one” an then The Message version translates that to “Anarchist”, streamlining - but also confusing - the meaning. Lawless one is very clear. Anarchist needs to be looked up. And then you discover it means “lawless one”, among other things.

Do a search on the word “mansions” in the KJV (In my Father’s house are many mansions) and you will find that the word from which it was translated really means “room or dwelling place”. No other version translates it to “mansions”. And I don’t think they should. It would be like translating a phrase that says “In my dad’s garage are a lot of cars” to actually say, “in my dad’s garage are a lot of limousines.”

I don’t know why they used that word, other than to imply that it is better than anywhere we could live on earth. But that should be communicated via the rest of the scripture.

Neve


97 posted on 03/07/2012 7:43:59 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I agree with you. That’s why “anarchist” is not my favorite way of translating it.

In fact, to be blunt, it is as if the original text is translated to mean “lawless one” an then The Message version translates that to “Anarchist”, streamlining - but also confusing - the meaning. Lawless one is very clear. Anarchist needs to be looked up. And then you discover it means “lawless one”, among other things.

Do a search on the word “mansions” in the KJV (In my Father’s house are many mansions) and you will find that the word from which it was translated really means “room or dwelling place”. No other version translates it to “mansions”. And I don’t think they should. It would be like translating a phrase that says “In my dad’s garage are a lot of cars” to actually say, “in my dad’s garage are a lot of limousines.”

I don’t know why they used that word, other than to imply that it is better than anywhere we could live on earth. But that should be communicated via the rest of the scripture.

Neve


I see what you mean, although i would have to know just what Jesus meant when he said my fathers House, what is Gods house, and was he referring to heavenly places? in which instance may be considered mansions.

I think that if i am saved i would consider the place where i was going to be a mansion or castle or something more than what i have here.

I have a room or dwelling place here, and believe me what ever i have in the fathers house will be a mansion to me, not disagreeing with you but i have read several other versions and i trust the KJV more than i do the others.


98 posted on 03/07/2012 9:16:30 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Zuriel

I’m the same age, and have many of the same circumstances. I came to a different conclusion, but I didn’t start with the premise that it’s all about me and my life.


99 posted on 03/07/2012 6:32:11 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
True, but For anyone to live the Christian life in any age requires a miracle of grace- “the whole world lies in the wicked one”

That still leaves us with the same deal everyone before us got. I don't see us having any claim to special circumstance.

100 posted on 03/07/2012 6:35:00 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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