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Tornadoes' Paths not Random, John Piper Says [Meteorology Caucus]
Associated Baptist Press ^ | 3/6/12 | Bob Allen

Posted on 03/07/2012 10:24:56 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: lupie

I loved what you posted and the poem.


101 posted on 03/08/2012 7:16:05 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: BuckeyeTexan
To Piper's credit, he says "Let us beware, therefore, of reading the hand of providence with too much certainty or specificity."

He made a similar declaration of God's soveriegnty vis-a-vis the Indonesian tsunami. His point-then and now-is that we fool ourselves if we think that God is not in control of all things. Tsunamis, tornados, tribulations and tumors all serve a divine purpose that may not be known to us. It is not for us to know all things, but to trust and believe.

102 posted on 03/08/2012 7:24:10 AM PST by jboot
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To: jboot

Amen.


103 posted on 03/08/2012 8:53:24 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Since I know that you know that God’s word clearly states that “there is none righteous...,” I would hope that you could better understand the intended meaning of that verse.

How many verses in the Bible are meant to be taken alone, rather than in the context of the whole word? (clue: zero)
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105 posted on 03/08/2012 9:39:25 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: marshmallow

Friday, God caused a fierce wind to blow over my neighbor’s big blue spruce. I don’t know why, maybe He didn’t like her beagle......On numerous occasions I would pray to Him to make the darn thing shut up, maybe He was hoping the tree would hit it but missed.


106 posted on 03/08/2012 9:53:33 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: editor-surveyor

Although babies are born with the sinful nature of man, they (and young children) have not chosen to reject Christ and are therefore covered by the precious blood of Jesus Christ. A sinful nature is not the same as choosing to sin.

Paul spoke of the thorn in his flesh as a messenger of Satan to buffet him. Yet he stood on God’s grace to overcome his weakness. Man chooses righteousness or sin, babies do not.

I did not suggest that any verse in Scripture stands alone without context. In fact, I made it clear that there are many references to the innocent (and the righteous) in Scripture. Yet you rest your argument on one verse concluding that babies and young children have sinned and fallen short.

They have not chosen sin. They were born with a sinful nature - the propensity to sin. There is a difference. If there weren’t, the blood of Jesus would not cover them until they chose Christ.


107 posted on 03/08/2012 11:12:11 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: marshmallow

Yes, God allows evil. The flaw in the premise of many expressing disdain for Piper’s view is a lack of appreciation for the contrast between the depths of sinfulness in man (even supposedly “good” men) and the a) holiness and b) love of God for sinners.

Is it better for Him to allow them to live blithely and die in their sins or to cause them to cry out to Him and be saved? In that light, such natural disasters are an act of mercy rather than vengeance.

To Him be the glory...


108 posted on 03/08/2012 12:34:35 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: editor-surveyor; POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Then become a Global Warmist.

Joe Bastardi is a meteorologist, do you have a problem with him?

109 posted on 03/08/2012 12:50:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: editor-surveyor
Go back to your knitting you paranoid fool!

Then stay off the Religion threads if you wish to use comments like that...What may be humor to YOU may not be obvious to others.

110 posted on 03/08/2012 1:00:49 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: luckystarmom

This is by far the most blessed thing I have ever been involved with. They give so much more than you can imagine. We see it as ministering with them, not too them. They are so anxious and excited to learn about God’s Word.


111 posted on 03/08/2012 1:30:52 PM PST by lupie
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To: Hot Tabasco

I recommend that you stay off the RF.

Obviously you identify with thew rest of the liars at the local Warmist society, but no one here does, so you’re out of your element.


112 posted on 03/08/2012 2:29:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Obviously you identify with thew rest of the liars at the local Warmist society

Oh really? How about posting my comments that would lead you to that lying accusation?

113 posted on 03/08/2012 2:33:45 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Is there any particular reason why anyone should know or care who joe bastardi is?
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114 posted on 03/08/2012 2:39:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

>> “How about posting my comments that would lead you to that lying accusation?” <<

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Comments #109 and 110 would suffice in that area.

You appear to get in a huff when the psuedo scientists are spoken of derisively
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115 posted on 03/08/2012 2:46:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is there any particular reason why anyone should know or care who joe bastardi is?

Only if YOU'RE too stupid to know or too ignorant to find out..........

116 posted on 03/08/2012 2:47:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Hot Tabasco

IOW, there is no reason an intelligent person would wish to know anything about Mr bastardi.


117 posted on 03/08/2012 2:48:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: fruser1

You have “God is punishing you because I am right and you are wrong” in quotes. Why?

Are you misrepresenting this pastor through malice, or through ignorance?


118 posted on 03/08/2012 2:53:50 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: editor-surveyor
there is no reason an intelligent person

Since it's obvious you're not talking about yourself, you might want to educate yourself on Joe........but you'd rather engage in a pissing contest wouldn't you?

Fair enough, I surrender to your ignorance and grant you the win.......

119 posted on 03/08/2012 2:54:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Why is ‘joe’ so important to you that you feel so compelled to inject him here?


120 posted on 03/08/2012 2:59:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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