Posted on 04/22/2012 11:23:32 AM PDT by NYer
Your post did. Also, as in heaven, we're to be made kings and queens by God, so hence Mary is a queen, isn't she?
and there you go again calling God by the Canaanite name Baal (Lord). why?
Then do you reject the false Gap Theory? And acknowledge that it is inconsistent with God creating everything in six days, as Scripture states?
Hocus-pocus!
Gibberish!
Stick with the word of God.
editor-surveyor wrote:
Hocus-pocus!
Gibberish!
Stick with the word of God.
He was responding to me quoting a Canticle from Holy Scripture.
The text of the canticle is taken directly from the Gospel of Luke (Luke 1:46-55 ) where it is spoken by the Virgin Mary upon the occasion of her Visitation to her cousin Elizabeth. In the narrative, after Mary greets Elizabeth, who is pregnant with the future John the Baptist, the child moves within Elizabeth’s womb. When Elizabeth praises Mary for her faith, Mary sings what is now known as the Magnificat in response.
Then I quote Luther.
Odd that the poster has such a nasty, vicious response to the Holy Writ. Very odd. Here is exactly what I posted:
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
The saints sleep. Paul made that very clear. When we die, we sleep until the rapture (first resurrection).
Anyone that you pray to you worship.
Christ gave no one the power to conjur up the dead.
Christ’s office is redeemer and priest, and he shares those with no one. (you can be glad of that, imagine hanging on the cross!)
The word is Christian, not anti-catholic. Catholics are anti-christian, or just plain numb.
Again, the saints sleep; they are not consious until they are changed, as Paul stated in his epistle to the Thessalonians.
Anyone that you pray to you worship.What a bizarre repudiation of the Communion of Saints. What odd sect do you adhere to? Jehovah's Witness?
Why not consider a moment before spewing.
editor-surveyor appears to belong to some odd non Christian cult. I am thinking one of the Millerite cults, but I could easily be wrong.
So why did Jesus descend into hell? To tell the saints, "wake up and go back to sleep"?
An “Ancient Homily” of the early Church for Holy Saturday captured this event: “The whole earth keeps silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and He has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began.... He has gone to search for our first parent, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, He has gone to free from sorrow the captives of Adam and Eve, He who is both God and the Son of Eve.... ‘I am your God, who for your sake have become your Son.... I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be held a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.”
I listened to Matthew Kelly’s Lighthouse Catholic Media CD and thought he had a really great idea about keeping a journal of the message you find especially meaningful in each individual Mass you attend.
I thought the whole thing was powerful, especially his comment that if all the fifty million Catholics in the U.S. would work harder at deepening their faith, that would simply change the face of America.
On the CD, he recommends just two steps to do that: Confession every month and a journal in which you record the message you hear at each Mass that allows you to be the best version of yourself you can be.
No, the wife of a king is the queen. The only time his mother is also queen is if his father was king before him.
>>I knew you would fail to show ANY demonstrable connection between the Virgin Mary and pagan stories. You’ll keep failing too.<<
The only reference to the “queen of heaven” in scripture is pagan. The only women who were designated queen in scripture were if their husband was king. God the Father calls Israel His wife and Jesus bride is the church. The idea of the “queen of heaven” concept is a human construct of pagans and Catholics.
-—No, the wife of a king is the queen.—
Bathsheba, King David’s wife, the Queen of the House of David, bowed to the King.
David’s son, King Solomon, bowed to the same woman, Bathsheba, his mother. The Queen Mother sat at the King’s right hand.
It’s in your abridged Bible:
1 Kings 1:15-16
So Bathsheba went to see the aged king (David) in his room, where Abishag the Shunammite was attending him.
Bathsheba bowed low and knelt before the king.
1 Kings 2:19
When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, the king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king’s mother, and she sat down at his right hand.
Jesus is the King of the eternal House of David.
Revelation 3:7
“To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words
of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. ...
Mary is Jesus’ Mother, the Queen Mother of the eternal House of David.
Revelation 12:1
A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. ...
Oh really?
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
If we are like the angels would you please find a reference in scripture to a female angel? For that matter, you said we would be “kings and queens” in heaven. Where in scripture is it found that there would be “queens” in heaven?
“I” called Him Baal? Look at that post again and you might notice it was scripture not “I”.
Of course not. The six day reforming of the earth is in no way inconsistent.
Brilliant post, I’ve been trying to put into words exactly what you wrote for some time.
It’s also exactly why, with rare exception, I don’t let myself get sucked into a Bible verse war. It’s absolutely useless.
Exactly as useless (and unstable) as a chair with only one leg.
Being taught what one should believe or being told what one must believe, while one is more passively suggestive and the other is more coercive and threatening, it still becomes a matter of personal choice to believe what is taught or is told to you!
Catholics always like to trot out the name of Bathsheba as being queen during the reign of king Solomon but never mention king David’s mother Nitzevet who was never queen even though she was the mother of David. If it were true that the mother of the king was the queen Nitzevet would have been the queen in David’s kingdom..
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