Posted on 06/06/2012 7:42:34 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
In a statement released Friday, Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA says it supports the LCWR's response to the Vatican report. Here's what the organization wrote: The entire membership of Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA (RCWP) proudly stands in solidarity with the Leadership Conference of Women Religious and fully supports the actions that the LCWR will be taking in response to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith report. RCWP believes that as a matter of justice, the CDF mandate must be discussed openly and candidly with the LCWR membership. We will continue to pray with and for Pat Farrell, OSF, President of LCWR and Janet Mock, CSJ, Executive Director, as they prepare to meet with the CDF prefect Cardinal William Levada and the apostolic delegate Archbishop Peter Sartain to raise and discuss the concerns brought forward by the LCWR board at their recent meeting. We will continue to pray with and for all of the members of LCWR as they continue to discern their individual and collective responses to the CDF directive. Roman Catholic Womenpriests (RCWP) is an international movement within the Roman Catholic Church. The mission of Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA is primarily to spiritually prepare, ordain in Apostolic Succession, and support women who are called by the Holy Spirit and their communities to a renewed priestly ministry rooted in justice and faithfulness to the Gospel.
Incorrect. Suggest you reread 1 Timothy.
They’ve already been excommunicated.
Having the womynpriests stick up for the flaky nuns is like having NAMBLA stick up for Jerry Sandusky.
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good analogy.
The qualification is plainly stated.
Now the overseer must be without reproach, the husband of but one wife.
If he’s married, he is/has been married just once to one wife.
Missing the larger point, I was stating that this qualification inherently says a church overseer is a man by definition since the candidate is referred to as a husband.
Thanks for missing the point.
Being a priest or pastor is not “just another job”.(emphasis added)
God set the qualifications. Husband of one wife was one of them.
"A faithful saying: if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. It behoveth therefore a bishop to be blameless, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, of good behaviour, chaste, given to hospitality, a teacher, Not given to wine, no striker, but modest, not quarrelsome, not covetous, but One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all chastity." 1 Timothy 3:1-4(emphasis added)
Number one, St. Paul is speaking about the office of Bishop, not a "priest or pastor" as you incorrectly claimed. While all Bishops are Priests not all Priests and Pastors are Bishops. Number two, St. Paul, who was a celibate himself; which you conveniently failed to mention, in his counsel to Timothy, does not include the word "must" in his writing. St. Paul would have no authority to require that Timothy select only married men to serve as a Bishop since he himself was not married and he was a Bishop. You are simply wrong regardless of your obstinance.
Following is St. Jerome's commentary on 1 Timothy 3 which you quite obviously have never read.
"Of one wife. The meaning is, not that every bishop should have a wife (for St. Paul himself had none) but that no one should be admitted to the holy orders of bishop, priest, or deacon, who had been married more than once."
The qualification is plainly stated.
Incorrect, once again.
Here's a few more passages from Scripture that you have either never read or purposely choose to ignore.
"But I would have you to be without solicitude. He that is without a wife, is solicitous for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please God. But he that is with a wife, is solicitous for the things of the world, how he may please his wife: and he is divided. And the unmarried woman and the virgin thinketh on the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she that is married thinketh on the things of the world, how she may please her husband. And this I speak for your profit: not to cast a snare upon you; but for that which is decent, and which may give you power to attend upon the Lord, without impediment." 1 Corinthians 7:32-35
"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-21
"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16
Thanks for missing the point.
Thanks for publicly demonstrating your ignorance of Scripture for all the world to see and for giving me the opportunity to set you straight.
The next time you want to point out that women can't be ordained then quote from a text that isn't corrupted and use the following. You'll look much less foolish.
"Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith. But if they would learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is a shame for a woman to speak in the church." 1 Corinthians 14:34-35
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