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God Wants You Healed
08-17-12 | Frank Broom

Posted on 08/17/2012 8:38:47 PM PDT by Frank Broom

How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him (Acts 10:38). So first of all healing is good. And second sickness is of the devil not God. God anointed Jesus for the purpose of healing (Luke 4:18). Notice Jesus was teaching one day and it says, "The power of the Lord was present to heal them" (Luke 5:17). So God uses his power to heal not to make sick. And notice people sought to touch him, people came to him to lay his hands on them, they ran and got all the sick and laid them in the streets so that they could touch his garment, they decided they were going to receive their healing not God. That's why God supplied the power for their healing. They sought him so that let's me know that it's not about if it's God's will, but their decision to go and receive. Have you noticed that Jesus never prayed for God to heal someone. He never told his disciples to pray to God to heal someone, he said you heal them. They didn't have to pray to God for him to heal someone because they already knew his will and he already supplied his power. Notice Jesus told his disciples to pray, "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven." Are there any sick in heaven, no, so God doesn't want any sick on the earth.

The blood of Jesus purchased your healing. Just as God wants everyone saved, he wants everyone healed they are both by the same blood. Can you imagine taking someone out to a buffet and paying for them to eat and then not wanting them to eat. And yet, that's how some people view God. He sent his only begotten son to purchase your healing with his blood, so why would he not want you healed (2Peter 2:24). Healing has to be received. Notice Jesus didn't just go to people they came to him to receive healing. Jesus was full of grace and truth and people came to him to receive grace from him. And that power is present today. That's why Jesus said it was good that he go away so that the Comforter would be sent. Now that power is present everywhere at all times. And God does not change, the power was present to heal then and it is present to heal now.


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To: rusty schucklefurd
Can I add to it? I had a guy I work with a Charismatic tell my wife that her lack of faith kept her in her wheelchair. It tormented her considerably because she took him serious. I had to deal with the harm her did her mentally as if she didn't have enough on her plate. In two more weeks she will reach her 27th year since she last walked.

The guy quit a few months after that and moved away to another town Just before he left he was cheating on his wife with a woman in the company we worked at. When he returned about a year later his life was in ruins as his wife moved in with his neighbor.

I do not believe in name it claim it or everything is roses theology especially when The Bible says otherwise. Did the Disciples or Apostles die healthy? Some were murdered Stephen in his final breaths saw heaven open up. Tradition has it Peter was hung from a cross upside down.

I do believe this though. As with Daniel was in the lions den and the lions mouth were closed and as with his three students who were thrown into a furnace GOD will not forsake us but rather Christ will be there to bring us through the conclusion of it. The conclusion may well be one of being called home. So be it. Christ Kingdom and His Kingdom which is forever is not of this earth for earth shall pass away.

21 posted on 08/18/2012 2:53:59 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Repeat Offender

I was referring to physical death. At some point we all will face physical death. And when that happens it means that God chose not to heal us, despite our faith.

Your story is amazing!


22 posted on 08/18/2012 4:36:15 AM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I'm trying to figure out whether you got my point ; you may have further made my point.

There are many things related to the New Covenant which were secured by the work of Christ on the Cross, by the shedding of His sinless Blood.

When someone says that healing of our physical bodies was provided for in the sacrifice of the Saviour, that is true, and obvious. But it does not necessarily mean that all things provided-for are guaranteed immediately.

There are land promises, as well as regal promises to Israel (Abraham's physical seed) provided-for in the sacrifice of Christ, included in the New Covenant. But these things will not be realized until after the removal of the Body of Christ.

The removal of the curse (Genesis 3) is provided for in the Blood-shedding and resurrection of Christ. But the curse is NOT removed yet, and will not be removed until the Second Advent of Christ.

One of the reasons our physical bodies are sick is because of the curse on the earth, preventing plant life from yielding its full product that would give our food supply the preventatives to disease that we need. Crops and wild foods will not yield their fullness until the curse is removed.

Our Lord certainly does heal very often in direct response to the prayers of His people. He certainly has the power to do so, and the prerogative to do so.

But to say that God does not want us sick goes beyond the Scriptures and denies another prerogative of His, and that is to use physical infirmity to teach us His grace, and teach us that it is sufficient (2 Corinthians ch. 12). It also denies His prerogative to use physical illness in the discipline of His children (1 Corinthians ch. 11 ; Hebrews ch. 12).

23 posted on 08/18/2012 7:05:18 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: cva66snipe

Exactly.


24 posted on 08/18/2012 9:12:14 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: cva66snipe

God bless you, cva66snipe.

I am very saddened to hear of the suffering your wife has had to bear, and worse still to have had this so-called “Christian” add to her torment.

As I said earlier, I truly do believe these people mean well and think they are doing God’s work, but the problem is some charismatic groups don’t know or respect the Biblical text very much. They really don’t study it - they love the emotional rather than the intellect. They think that using one’s mind somehow denies the work of the Holy Spirit. Let me say again, there are charismatic groups which highly respect the scriptures and there are some that don’t. This happens across denominations as well (unfortunately).

So, as a consequence, many charismatics seem to rarely use things like context or word studies to accurately interpret a passage - for example many times they don’t get that the Greek and Hebrew words translated into English do not always give the full meaning - for example the word “love” has at least five different meanings in the Greek. To “judge” someone has at least two different meanings. Same with “speaking with tongues”, “baptized by the Spirit” - these all have specific meanings often using different Greek words but translated with the same word in English. This is where context and Greek/English lexicons come in very handy.

My point is spending hard work in studying the Biblical text is seen by many charismatics as blase over the “experience” of the Spirit, not realizing that if don’t study and really know God’s word that there are a lot of counterfeit spiritual experiences out there that lead people astray. Unfortunately, for many charismatics (the name it and claim it types) emotion and experience are seen as superior to studying sound doctrine in the Bible.

At this point I’m usually asked, “Well, how do you know that your interpretation is correct and someone else’s is wrong?” Good question, there are some passages that are open to more than one interpretation - but, most of the scriptures are very clear given the context (what comes before and after the passage you are reading) and understanding of the vocabulary.

I love what you said here:

“I do believe this though. As with Daniel was in the lions den and the lions mouth were closed and as with his three students who were thrown into a furnace GOD will not forsake us but rather Christ will be there to bring us through the conclusion of it. The conclusion may well be one of being called home. So be it. Christ Kingdom and His Kingdom which is forever is not of this earth for earth shall pass away.”

You are absolutely correct. Again, God bless you and your sweet wife. It is difficult to always keep things in their proper perspective, but I heard a sentiment the other day which helped me. It said that, “As bad as life on this earth gets is inversely proportionate as to how good it will be with God and His Son, the Lord Jesus, in Heaven.” I, like you, look forward to that “new Heaven, and a new earth”. Come, Lord Jesus.


25 posted on 08/18/2012 10:02:19 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Frank Broom

If God guaranteed healing now in this life, then why are people not healed? You are making God out to be a liar.


26 posted on 08/18/2012 10:07:04 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

The truth is that God can and does heal. Just not in the way that Pentecostals and Charismatics describe.


27 posted on 08/18/2012 10:09:12 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: Bellflower

this is just out right bad theology


28 posted on 08/18/2012 10:09:21 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Yes it is bad. But it sells a lot of CD’s and books so people keep cranking out bad messages “in the name of Jesus”.

If you want Bible and sound Theology, don’t look towards Charismatics/Pentecostalism.


29 posted on 08/18/2012 10:14:11 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

This is a Bible based perspective on healing:

http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/90-60/does-god-still-heal


30 posted on 08/18/2012 10:17:11 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

I still remember Oral Roberts comparing God to a soda machine...you put a quarter in and you get a soda out....you tithe to God (through Oral’s church of course) and you will get money back....It made me so mad.

Too often it is this type of ‘preaching’ that ends up blinding people to the real joy that comes from living a life that is full of grace and blessing—— and that means that my insides ( my psyche) is in the right place regardless of what the physicality of my life is. I can be poor and yet rich. I can be healthy and yet dying of a terminal disease. I can be happy in the face of all adversity.


31 posted on 08/18/2012 10:19:57 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Yes! Plenty of people are deceived because they enable the wickedness of false teachers like Oral Roberts and many others.

The darkest pits of Hell are reserved for these false teachers.


32 posted on 08/18/2012 10:23:21 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: Frank Broom

The ultimate healing will not take place on this earth or in this body. Gods grace through the shed blood of Jesus the Christ his son, and the Holy Spirit will sustain me until that happens.


33 posted on 08/18/2012 10:33:50 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Frank Broom

Ever read Job?


34 posted on 08/18/2012 10:46:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: Frank Broom
Don't you think it's a bit presumptuous to say what it is God wants for us? Perhaps it would be best if we simply trust and thank Him for everything that happens in our lives.
35 posted on 08/18/2012 3:05:47 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: rusty schucklefurd
She's been a blessing to me. One tragedy started the chain of events that lead to us meeting. My first wife passed one morning at age 23 from a heart attack. That lead me a few weeks later to take a job transfer where I met my future wife. At the time she was a nurses aide raising two kids alone on her wages. Through mutual friends one of which drove me home the morning my first wife died and his wife my current wifes best friend played match maker I reckon LOL.

A friendship quickly formed and on our days off me, her, and the kids went to the movies etc. It was on one of those outings she collapsed and fell to the floor. The first couple of days were touch and go and doctors had no answers as to why it happened. That answer was a year away. She spent a total of six months in the hospital during the third month we married. That was roughly six months after my first wife died. The events that happened and unfolded in that time frame were turbulent to say the least. Questions? I had many more questions than answers especially the right ones.

GOD knows our request and our needs even before we call on Him. In the first week at the hospital two preachers came in. She knew them from a previous church she had attended but I didn't. They laid hands upon her for healing. When they started praying I was overcome with a peace unknown to me before or since. From that peace came a voice "It's going to be OK". I at first mistook it for she was to be healed. But that is not what I was told. The initial prognoses was her arms would stay in a drawn position toward her chest. Within a few days after this she was feeding herself with her bare hands.

The next part is for legalistics. What is right before GOD and the conscience guided by The Holy Spirit? I know what The Bible says about divorce and why. She had been abused and abandoned a couple years before we met. Her husband took another woman a child actually over his family and let them. His abuses were part of the reason for her becoming a quad.

All either one of us sought when we met was a friendship. Our friendship became much more in a very short time. We were not married when she went quad although we had discussed it likely happening in our future like maybe a year away.

A persons physical abilities isn't what makes them who they are. Running away would have been easy and yes at one point I ran. I ran because I had endured so much mental hurt that I was numb. I had no emotion for anything and it scared the living daylights out of me. It took a couple of days for that part of me to be restored and that had happened weeks after what I described happened in the laying on of hands.

With the counseling of her preacher and even several Nuns who were protecting her safety {we aren't Catholic but this was in a Catholic ran hospital} we married in a hospital chapel. Until she was released from the hospital I took the kids to my parents home for their safety and yes there was a matter of their safety I can't talk about except to say they were not in a safe place till that time. Any Solomons around? LOL

There has been no doubt in my mind nor my heart that GOD has had a plan for me to take if I chose to listen and try to carry it out. There is no doubt none whatsoever that my wife and myself being united was not part of that plan for both of us.

We've been very blessed. She's almost died several times. Nine years into our marriage I became disabled myself. How ironic. She lacks physical ability to walk. I lack mental ability often times to even concentrate on simple task but I have my strength which allows me to pick her up. But GOD knew this was to happen to her and me even before we were born.

It's an imperfect world filled with imperfect persons who will make imperfect choices sometimes. Despite ourselves GOD prevails if we allow HIM. It took me several years to even begin to understand what that message I was told "It's going to be OK" meant. GOD knew what we were to face. Those words gave me the strength to face the future. Looking at the grandkids though I understand. This world isn't just about ourselves. But what we do here sure effects the future of others.

36 posted on 08/18/2012 6:05:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Repeat Offender

GOD is with you. You understand a lot more than many in this world today.


37 posted on 08/18/2012 6:09:38 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Wpin

Thank you Wpin for taking the time to read this.


38 posted on 08/18/2012 9:04:16 PM PDT by Frank Broom
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To: John Leland 1789

John Leland 1789 I know all are not well, but all I’m saying is healing is God’s will and He made healing available. Thanks!


39 posted on 08/18/2012 9:09:16 PM PDT by Frank Broom
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To: GOP Poet

Thank you GOP Poet for reading this, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!


40 posted on 08/18/2012 9:11:12 PM PDT by Frank Broom
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