Posted on 09/04/2012 8:06:42 AM PDT by freedomlover
SALT LAKE CITY — Maybe now, reporters, bloggers, outsiders and even many Mormons will accept that the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not forbid drinking cola.
On Aug. 29, the LDS church posted a statement on its website saying that “the church does not prohibit the use of caffeine” and that the faith’s health-code reference to “hot drinks” “does not go beyond (tea and coffee).”
A day later, the website wording was slightly softened, saying only that “the church revelation spelling out health practices … does not mention the use of caffeine.”
The same goes for the church’s two-volume handbook, which LDS leaders use to guide their congregations. It says plainly that “the only official interpretation of ‘hot drinks’ … in the Word of Wisdom is the statement made by early church leaders that the term ‘hot drinks’ means tea and coffee.”
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Yeah, so inconsistent. Not like those Catholics. Meat on Friday is a mortal sin, going to hell. Oh wait, never mind!
I'm curious too. People do not vigorously spar about what they know to be true, only what they fear may not be true.
For that refreshing Nuke-Clear Taste!
Southern Baptist
Here's a news flash. All religions and all cultures are not equal. It's why the world rejected Cannibalism.
I ridicule Mormonism in hopes that some of it's adherents will wake up to the fact that they are in a silly "me too" cult. And have been taught a lot of error mixed with a little truth.
Steven, there are many of us who are non-denominational, who follow scripture, not man-made organizations. Many of us.
We call ourselves Christians. We worship with other non-affiliated believers in local groups.
We consider our church to be the universal body of believers to which God the Father adds us when we believe in his Son. (Acts 2, when the church began). We welcome you, and any other believer, to join us.
I suppose that lime flavored jello with small carrot strips embedded is still OK too?
You mean like these?
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
The mormons but a bunch of Coke cola stock and put their mark on the cans a couple decades ago and could drink it in the 80’s.
Yup.
This was not new news to me either. It’s weird it’s being presented that way.
I don’t belong to a particular denomination. I have attended Baptist, Catholic, and most recently, Mormon churches. You are welcome to bash them if you wish. In my opinion none of them are perfect.
Frankly in my opinion whenever “man” gets involved, he tends to screw things up in light of mans ego and thirst for control of others. At the same time, Jesus encouraged his followers to meet in his Name, and in my opinion meeting with other like-minded followers can strengthen one’s faith.
Back to the thread, is there something about its posting that upsets you or you consider to be “bashing”? As far as I know, it is true, and was discussed in at least two Sunday church meetings in a local Mormon church, so it is a relevant discussion point.
Thanks
Yeah but the Catholics never changed their scripture. The Friday fish was never based on scripture. It was just a tradtion.
I don't know if the Mormon hot drink rule is based on their scripture or not. But the "eternal covenant of polygamy" is in their scriptures. And it is worthy of ridicule.
Common denominator in your examples is that men’s rules always change. And men always make rules. And men always mess things up, complicate things till they’re corrupted.
Take our government, for example. Look at what the Constitution says and what a colossal mess the courts have made of it. The tax code, myriad other examples.
Everything manmade changes, deteriorates.
We wouldn’t have an epidemic of pedophile priests if some robed churchmen hadn’t decided to alter nature and enforce celibacy on its leadership. Of course it attracted the perverted.
Ought to get some incoming fire for that, but it’s true.
Must one be perfect, as Christ was, in order to be able to criticize?
You are not acting in a Christ like spirit and you know it.
That's a frequently misunderstood scripture. Scripture commmands us to "Rebuke our neighbor frankly, so that we do not share in his sin." It tells us to warn the wicked. It tells us to discern spirits.
The kind of judging that we aren't supposed to do. Is the kind that Jonah did. (You should read it, it's short, only 4 chapters). Jonah knew that the city of Ninevah was wicked. Everyone did, including God and Jonah. That's not judging them in the context of the above scripture. That's just recognizing evil.
Jonah was unwilling to go preach to them. He was supposed to go warn them and offer them God's mercy if they repented. Jonah didn't want them to repent. He wanted them to get what was coming to them.
So what follwed is Jonah ran away, ended up in the belly of a fish for three days and got burped out back on land. Which convinced him that maybe he should go preach to Ninevah. Ninevah did repent and Jonah became angry because he had judged them unworthy of God's grace. And in chapter 4 God takes Jonah to task for judging them.
It's not ridiculing evil or the false beliefs that is judging. Prophets of God did that in scripture. It's failure to see their potential and failure to love them despite their actions. That's judging.
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
No one is suggesting we kill the Mormons. We're simply pointing out their errors in hopes they will see the Light.
21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings?
23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
When confronted by my Mormon friends about coffee, I always ask them about their meat consumption on hot days. It seems that even Mormons don't take all the "Words of Wisdom" too seriously. I then take them to Colossians 2 and show them that God thinks their little regulations are foolishness. They always leave me alone about my coffee after that.
His wife wrote about it her journal, Smith and his cronies would hang around drinking while smoking cigars.
The Republican Party was founded by a coalition of Whigs, Anti-Slavery, anti-polygamy people.
Yep
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