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Are Conservatives Abandoning Romney? [Say What?!? 7-10% of Tea Party Evangelicals support Obama??]
The Right Sphere ^ | September 16, 2012 | Tom Dougherty

Posted on 09/17/2012 7:31:00 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

There have been 16 public polls conducted in swing states within the last week and there is an alarming statistic, consistent in all the polls regardless of the pollster party bias, that should have the Romney camp more than a little worried and possibly perplexed.

The numbers are clear that self-described conservatives are not supporting Governor Romney in sufficient numbers to win the election. Additionally there is anecdotal evidence that Evangelicals and Tea Party supporters are not embracing the Romney-Ryan ticket at levels that would be expected.

Looking at the crosstabs of the polls conducted in Colorado, Florida, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia within the last ten days, and averaging the support for Obama and Romney by ideology, the chart below speaks thousands of words.

Obama has a 7% greater support level among liberals than Romney has among conservatives, and a 6.8% favorable delta among likely voters who are “bolting from the base”. Without any demographic adjustment, using the raw data from the polls in those five states, Obama has an average lead of 2.5%.

If conservatives were supporting Governor Romney at the same level liberals are supporting President Obama, without any change to the level of support from self-described moderates, Romney could have a 4% plus lead in five states that have a total of 73 electoral votes

With my current electoral map showing Obama with 237 votes and Romney with 222, 73 votes is the ballgame, and by a comfortable margin.

In addition to the ideology breakdowns, the crosstabs show Tea Party supporters favor Romney over Obama, 85.0% to 10.6%, and Evangelical Christians favor Romney over Obama, 63.0% to 28.2%. Now I can immediately write-off a large part of the evangelical numbers because three of the polls conducted by Marist Polling state that 33% of evangelicals support Obama and that skews the numbers badly.

What I can’t write off is there are 7% to 10% of the electorate who describe themselves as either Tea Partiers or Evangelical Christians that are supporting Barack Obama in these five critical states. This is the empirical part of questioning the lack of support from ultra-conservatives within the Republican Party.

Anecdotally speaking there is also evidence that a faction of the party, large enough to insure a Romney-Ryan victory, is not fully behind the GOP ticket. In the last week I have received a minimum of a dozen emails from Tea Party organizations and other ultra-conservative groups demanding the ouster of Barack Obama in November but failing to even mention the names, Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

A few of these organizations may have charters as 527’s or another quasi-political group that prevents them from expressing specific support for a given candidate but I know the vast majority are not. So the question that begs to be asked of these groups is if you want Obama gone, why are you not advocating for a Romney-Ryan victory in November?

We are looking at a presidential race today that literally is a statistical tie, and yes I know that phrase is overworked but it is the truth, with President Obama having the upper hand. Clearly there is somewhere between 7% and 15% of conservatives who, while seemingly committed to seeing Obama as a one-term president, are not supporting the only option to victory in November that achieves their stated goal.

So my answer to the question asked is yes, conservatives are abandoning Romney, and that is an answer many Republicans must find unsettling.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; christianvote; conservatives; elections; evangelicals; obama; romney
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To: Unam Sanctam
"How about preventing the Marxist from consolidating state socialism in this country?"


81 posted on 09/17/2012 8:53:31 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: reformedliberal

You have just witnessed stupid and you cant fix that.I feel sorry for the kids though.


82 posted on 09/17/2012 8:54:59 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: JSteff
Alas, there are numerous candidates to vote for ~ a vote for a candidate is a vote or that candidate and not a vote for a different candidate.

Thinking any other way about it is magical thinking. Besides, it's totally foolish to insult people who might be undecided ~ they might vote for your boy if you give them a chance. if you attack them they may not. No real politician turns down a chance to get a vote!

83 posted on 09/17/2012 8:55:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: boycott

How many go to a church such as the “reverend wright” s’ church? I think that may answer the question.


84 posted on 09/17/2012 8:58:32 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
I guess it would be out of bounds to ask if you really were somewhat tipsy when you officiated at Sidebar's memorial service after the tragic yachting accident that convienently didn't leave a corpse?

Or should I shut up now. ;)

/johnny

85 posted on 09/17/2012 9:00:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Alex Murphy

bttt


86 posted on 09/17/2012 9:01:25 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Beowulf9
Actually, I expect your preferred liberal to win. I will lose no opportunity to complain about the GOP liberal guy.

/johnny

88 posted on 09/17/2012 9:02:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

RIGHT ON JOHNNY,RIGHT ON.


90 posted on 09/17/2012 9:05:00 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: mnehring
"If Obama wins, at this pace, we will have so many people dependent on government we won’t have enough independently minded people to make a Conservative base."

If I understand Romney/Ryan's plan. We are going to get there faster. They are going to pull support out from under people before they address the structural issues in the economy. That's going to come back in 2 years and give the rat's the congress.

I won't vote for either one. This failure will be yours or theirs. Not Mine.

Romney is wrong to equate the 47% who don't pay taxes with being dependent on government. The daily beast ran an article saying 49% are actually dependent but they included social security and Medicare recipients, even though they had paid in taxes for those insurance benefits for years.

Neither candidate understands or has a plan to address the real issues in the economy. And thus they are both going to fail. But Ryan's plan will cause a liberal backlash. Obama will generate a conservative backlash.

91 posted on 09/17/2012 9:07:47 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: publana

Watch who you call traitor pal.


92 posted on 09/17/2012 9:07:51 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: DannyTN

“I don’t think conservatives are abandoning Romney, they were never on board to begin with.

And the GOP-E were idiots to ever think they would be.”

I totally agree with you DannyTN.


93 posted on 09/17/2012 9:07:53 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: fr_freak

Nicely put FR.


94 posted on 09/17/2012 9:10:52 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: fr_freak

Nicely put FR.


95 posted on 09/17/2012 9:11:11 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: JSteff

If by not voting for ORomney, they are voting for OZero, then by not voting for OZero, they also vote for ORomney. It sounds like a wash to me.


96 posted on 09/17/2012 9:11:52 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: DannyTN

O is eminently impeachable if not indictable as a fraud and enemy of the state. R will merely continue the same policies we are all against and be untouchable. There are no good choices.


97 posted on 09/17/2012 9:12:39 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Who, me?!


99 posted on 09/17/2012 9:13:17 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Unam Sanctam

We ARE working within the Party; we are voting for Conservatives to try to change the direction of the Party.


100 posted on 09/17/2012 9:13:57 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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