11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome

stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

[metmom]

I’m not a crowd follower either.

[metmom]

LOL!!

Love it.

We’re all being darned....

[CynicalBear]

>> According to you satan is against abortion and loves others?<<

Obama also said he was against gay marriage when he was wanting to get elected. Now he says he’s for it. The evil uses devious ways to confuse and make themselves look legitimate. Scripture says they will deceive to the point that “even the very elect” could be deceived. So yes, Satan will make it look like he is doing good to deceive.

It's not I who is being decieved or making the mistake.

[metmom]

Protestants of all denominations were also ‘sport’ as they quickly buckled under my power when they tried to convert me. However even back then I feared the Catholic priest as I knew, as did my demons, that I was no match for the power that came through him from God.”

Matthew 7:21-23 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

And someone would believe what a lying demon would tell them?

There's foolishness.

[CynicalBear]

We had one who was trying that but has since left for what seemed to be frustration and not being able to control the outrage.

[metmom]

As St. Peter tells us, we are not to be afraid of the evil spirit. Why not? Because we have the grace of God, one of whose main purposes is to resist the machinations of the devil.

1 John 4:4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

Because as born again believers in Christ, we have the Holy Spirit living with in us.

[metmom]

Mary was PRESERVED from all stain of original sin at her creation so that she would be a “New Creation”, the “New Eve”

Which contradicts Scripture which says...

Romans 3:21-26 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Scripture nowhere says that Mary was conceived or created sinless. Not one place.

[CynicalBear]

They don’t even see how blasphemous that “sinless Mary” concept is.

[boatbums]

Exactly! Sadly, I do believe many will be extremely disappointed when they face the Lord Jesus Christ. They will go before him and say, "Lord, Lord, we did all these mighty deeds for you, we did this, that, whatever our leaders told us we had to do to merit eternal life!"

And He will turn to them and say, "I never knew you, depart from me you who work iniquity!".

"But!", they will exclaim, "We did everything we thought you said we should do to deserve to make it to heaven. We were good, we weren't sinners!".

And he will say, "I said "believe on me, receive my gift of eternal life by faith and let go of thinking you have to earn it or deserve it. You can never deserve it which is why I gave you a gift!". "I died in your place, I suffered for your sins because you could not pay for them and be with me in heaven." "You have rejected my gift and thought you could boast of your good works and goodness, but you are naked and destitute, clothed in the dirty rags of your own righteousness instead of the snow-white robes of righteousness I give you."

And they will shake their fists and gnash their teeth at Him and probably their leaders with them who lied to them, as well, as they trod through the broad path to destruction with the rest of humanity that rejected the truth.

Someone asked why we "bother" to have these discussions when it seems nobody hears us. I do it because I sense God leading me to speak the truth of the gospel just as someone shared it with me forty-odd years ago and changed my life for eternity. We never will know who just may be reading here but I think, one day, we WILL know because maybe that person will come up to us in heaven and say, "You planted a seed in my heart." or, "You watered a seed someone planted in my heart." and their life was forever changed. I cannot let such an opportunity to share the gospel go by. I'm not trying to "steal" souls from a church nor am I drumming up membership roles for "my" church. I'm doing what Jesus commanded us all to do and that is to "go into all the world and preach the gospel." I want to obey him and bring him glory for the wonderful things he has done for me. To Him alone goes all the glory and honor and praise!

[metmom]

If Satan can get people to follow anyone but Christ, what's it to him if he gets people to live useful and productive lives.

I'm sure Satan would rather have us suffer in this life, but if he can ensure a soul in hell for eternity, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to give them all the money, power, and position this world craves.

What does it profit for a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?

Additionally, Satan can appear as an angel of light. All those people, and this isn't just Catholic, but many Pentecostals as well, are gullible and naive to the endangering of their souls by believing that everyone or everything who says it's from God really is.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Apparitions which direct attention from Jesus are demons.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your encouragements, dear brother and in sister in Christ!

I look forward to meeting you both in person, if not in this life then in the next one!

[CynicalBear]

>> 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.<<

That needs repeated every time a Catholic brings up one of those “visions” they are so proud of. As seen they honestly think that if something appears good it is. How naïve! That’s what not knowing what scripture says will lead to.

[metmom]

Likewise, but likely it will be in the next life.

[Syncro]

Yes that is pretty amazing and sad indeed.

Church Fathers and scripture?

I see a lot from your church fathers, and using the typology (is that how it is spelled typo logy?) to try to form the scriptures to mesh with the doctrine.

I saw no scriptures that could be clearly proving any of the paranormal attributes given to Mary.

CB, it's amazing what people will believe.

And the semantic gymnastics they go through to “prove” it.

[Syncro]

What about the ones that people see that the Catholic church does not sanction as being really Mary. Who is it if it is not Mary, and what is the origin of those?

Are they from God?

Like the one on a tree in Watsonville, CA a couple of decades ago?

[mitch5501]

Wow Amen dear bb!! Preach it sister!!

CB..."That’s what not knowing what scripture says will lead to."

I'm going to paste here something I posted a couple of weeks back on another thread because I feel it's germane to the issue here.

"Jesus prayed that the Father would sanctify us by the truth then said "thy word is truth" and since that same word "is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" it won't,to a heart that's desperately wicked and deceitfull,be pleasant.

Better to be busy doing what heart tells us is the Lord's work than confront that sword.It is our own deceitfull heart that simply will not let us believe what God has freely given us.It's just simply too good to be true and therefore can't be...(what an affront to Jesus sacrifice!)and then,like Martha,it's straight back to worries and concerns.

Knowing that you have life and that it was paid for with a terrible price,showing us just what lengths God would go to to redeem us and just how much He loved us and that it is ALL on someone else's account,namely, His ONLY begotten Son, is like a bomb going off in the human heart.It paralizes the accuser,not that he'll stop trying but no way is he gonna get much of a feed here anymore,let alone devour anything. It is that fact alone,that we have life in His name,that will quiet our heart,once it sinks in,once and for all! Once we believe that in our heart we will trully be released from bondage to slavery,trully be free and trully cease from our own works.Then that same accuser will be in the dirt under our feet."

Conversely if we don't do the "work of God" there will be no freedom,no deliverance from bondage to slavery,no transforming by the renewing of our minds to conform to the image of God's own Son and the devil will have a field day helping us to endlessly list our own shortcomings and keeping us blind to God's great gift.Not only does it keep us slaves to our own wicked hearts but it is a terrible affront to what God has done for us!

[presently no screen name]

The demons knew not to be afraid of things unholy and were not afraid of the anti catholic's, instead the demons brought them down

So you are saying the power of Holy Spirit can't cast out demons but Mary can.

The Jesus isn't enough crowd, now dismissed the Holy Spirit living with us. Both replaced by Mary.

Is that the new low for catholicsm before the flames touch them?

[presently no screen name]

what we believe God wants us to do

He wants you to hear and obey His Word. His Word is His Will.

[Syncro]

Your Lady of Laus appeared 2500 times over about 50 years.

She carrying baby Jesus.

Somehow that doesn't seem right.

Oh btw, satan knows scripture quite well.

The mistake is not understanding that satan will say many true things in order to get people to follow these "appearances" of Mary, but she is not referred to as Mary, but Our Lady of fillintheblanks.

It's one of satans jobs to get people to look at Mary, 'cause when they are doing that they are not looking at Jesus.

There is a beautiful song written in 1922 titled "Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus"

Hopefully the 120,000 people that go to Laus every year will heed the call of Jesus instead of Mary.

That is my prayer.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for sharing your testimony, dear brother in Christ!

Knowing that you have life and that it was paid for with a terrible price,showing us just what lengths God would go to to redeem us and just how much He loved us and that it is ALL on someone else's account,namely, His ONLY begotten Son, is like a bomb going off in the human heart.It paralizes the accuser,not that he'll stop trying but no way is he gonna get much of a feed here anymore,let alone devour anything.

Indeed.

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. - James 4:7

God's Name is I AM.