[Cronos]

Sure, go and check posts

quotes "So is Jesus a created being? Yes, as Rev. 3:14 says, ‘the beginning of creation’. "

at least he has the honesty to admit his beliefs -- why don't you?

[Religion Moderator]

Do not bring arguments from previous threads to newer ones.

[CynicalBear]

Ok, let’s get something straight here. We all know that Catholics have a check list of things they MUST believe in order to attain salvation. Not the least of which is the assumption of Mary. They think if you don’t believe the doctrine of the Trinity it somehow negates any hope of salvation. I have yet to have a Catholic show me the scripture that states “believe the doctrine of the trinity and you will be saved”. I do however see where bowing down to idols and incorporating pagan rituals, feast days, and pagan symbols is condemned by God. And it’s not just that those who do those things are serving other gods. As I have shown in my posts it’s that they are used in serving Him which are also condemned.

While I do believe there is one God in three persons I haven’t yet seen proof of that belief being a prerequisite for salvation. Surely the jailer was not in a position to understand that. No indication is given for that to be an understanding for the 3000 “who were added” understood that. So let’s put things into perspective here. Practices, beliefs, and rituals of the RCC are specifically condemned by God. Belief in the concept of the trinity is NOT a prerequisite for salvation. Belief that Jesus paid the complete price for our salvation and that He was the perfect and final sacrifice needed is required for our salvation and that again is something the RCC and its followers have added criteria to.

Denying the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice has a greater affect on ones salvation than not understanding the intricacies of the trinity.