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Do we need to set aside the Word “Marriage” and use “Holy Matrimony” exclusively?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 6/27/2013 | Msgr Charles Pope

Posted on 06/27/2013 5:14:21 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: C. Edmund Wright
I like the thought process here....

So do I. Instead of a “wedding”, you could have a “Celebration of Holy Matrimony”. That distinction could give the cake bakers a way around the onslaught being unleashed on them.
I suppose that priests and ministers would have to forgo signing the legal paperwork. A “Certificate of Union in Holy Matrimony” would be a separate document, like a baptismal certificate, issued by the church. We need to find more succinct terminology for all this, but I guess that is where it will have to go.

21 posted on 06/27/2013 6:18:15 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: beef
I suppose that priests and ministers would have to forgo signing the legal paperwork. A “Certificate of Union in Holy Matrimony” would be a separate document, like a baptismal certificate, issued by the church. We need to find more succinct terminology for all this, but I guess that is where it will have to go.

That is already what happens (except the State license is signed as well). A certificate is given and the spouses' records in their respective baptismal registries are annotated with the date they received the sacrament.

But please bear in mind what I said in post #15: the sodomites will start whining that it's not fair that they can't have ___(whatever term you come up with____. Think I'm kidding? See this thread with an op/ed published by a sodomite shortly after the NY law was changed a couple of years ago.

22 posted on 06/27/2013 6:26:01 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

What about calling it hetero-marriage (vs homo-marriage)? As in, My hetero-marriage is a Sacrament of Holy Matrimony.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 6:26:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: beef

I agree with all of that, but I suggest that the cake bakers and the florists go ahead and accept all the gay wedding business...”the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous” after all......


24 posted on 06/27/2013 6:29:02 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: markomalley

I second that but, the words husband and wife are also being redefined.

Joe + Joe = husband and husband


25 posted on 06/27/2013 6:38:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Fai Mao

There are tax advantages, too, since our overlords have decided that legally married people should be punished financially.


26 posted on 06/27/2013 6:43:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed that one day pro wrestling would be less fake than network news?)
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To: markomalley

I agree with you except that I think it is much more malicious than whining. They are going to try to legislate religious doctrine. We can only hope the SCOTUS draws the line there.


27 posted on 06/27/2013 6:45:16 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: madison10
After ringing the National Cathedral bells yesterday I’m curious...

Remember, the National Cathedral is NOT Catholic, it's Episcopal, and those folks went crazy years ago.

28 posted on 06/27/2013 6:53:18 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I remembered that the church is Epicopalian. Actually I’m not Catholic either, still curious as to how far they will go to spit in God’s face.


29 posted on 06/27/2013 7:14:45 PM PDT by madison10
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To: markomalley

What baffles me is the argument. 87 congress members and a president are racist because sodomizers have rights ?

The Chief Justice can set the rule of the the arguments of merit to the case before the court. It’s done every day it’s known as “the judge won’t allow”. Because the administration now favors “gay marriage” I wouldn’t expect what could be called a healthy defence from them. Sodomy wasn’t the issue . The issue was protecting the integrity and intention of a basic unit of society through a mechanisim known as marriage to encourage familys.

What should we expect from a political party which itself has gone through a marriage with one world socialist radicals known to many as communists who can’t even use the word God. They’ve hyphenated into Demo-Coms.

No just because a radical bunch have taken over and edicts changes in customs and values to conform to their idology should we set back and accept it. Time to stand up and be counted.


30 posted on 06/27/2013 9:02:50 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: markomalley

This is a good idea. We Christians need to talk about Christian marriage. And those bakers and florists who are now getting sued for not providing for “gay weddings” need to make clear they only provide services for “Holy Matrimonies.”


31 posted on 06/27/2013 9:30:35 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

“Holy Matrimony suggests that other Marriages are Un-Holy and makes those people fell bad. Thus the Catholic Church is Unconstitutional”. - Injustice Anthony Kennedy, some time in the next few years.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 7:29:27 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping!


33 posted on 06/28/2013 3:06:38 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: markomalley

Hmmmm...What would we use to replace the verb, “to marry?”

(Also thinking about all the forms we have to fill out asking if we are single, married, etc...)


34 posted on 06/29/2013 4:57:15 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: markomalley

“You must not give that which is holy to dogs”
-Matthew 7:6


35 posted on 06/29/2013 6:01:04 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
People who get married in the church should abandon the practice of making marriages legal by registering with the government.

If you have a church ceremony, you are morally married.

Dispense with the piece of paper, and the feral government has no further say.


I'd love to see this happen, but I doubt we'll see any significant number of couples willing to forego all the state-issued goodies that civil marriage brings.
36 posted on 06/30/2013 3:19:39 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
I'd love to see this happen, but I doubt we'll see any significant number of couples willing to forego all the state-issued goodies that civil marriage brings.

Ever hear of the "marriage penalty?"

You get taxed less and receive more government largess if you are NOT married.

Why do you think there are so many "single mothers?" Single-motherhood is now right up there with sainthood.

37 posted on 06/30/2013 3:27:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: markomalley

Then they will start using that term for themselves. There’s no limit to the ways the language can be enslaved and distorted.


38 posted on 06/30/2013 3:36:38 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Single-motherhood is a separate issue.

Couples get benefits by being married, from visitation and medical authority in hospitals to inheritance to sharing insurance to preferential insurance rates. There’s a reason that gay couples want to marry rather than enter into separate individual contacts to get those bennies.


39 posted on 06/30/2013 4:00:13 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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