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Do we need to set aside the Word “Marriage” and use “Holy Matrimony” exclusively?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 6/27/2013 | Msgr Charles Pope

Posted on 06/27/2013 5:14:21 PM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 06/27/2013 5:14:21 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Good article.


2 posted on 06/27/2013 5:19:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I think it is time that the good Cardinal put up or shut up and start excommunicating the many phony Catholics that infest the beltway.


3 posted on 06/27/2013 5:22:49 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: markomalley

+1


4 posted on 06/27/2013 5:24:01 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: markomalley
Are we coming to a point where we should consider dropping our use of the word “marriage?”

I don't know, but I do know the word "fiance" seems about beyond redemption.

5 posted on 06/27/2013 5:26:55 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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Yes, we should talk about holy matrimony, or unity covenants, or some other term which means a man and a woman coming together in such a union.

Since the meaning of marriage has now been changed, this seems like a good idea.

Ya, the homosexual community changed the definition of gay. Nobody uses the dictionary definition of gay anymore. Nowadays, gay means only homosexual. It just can’t be used to mean anything else anymore.

In the case of marriage, liberals will tell us it’s bigoted if we assume a married woman is married to a man. So perhaps it is time to use a term which by definition will be an opposite sex union, not a same sex union.


6 posted on 06/27/2013 5:27:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Better to have no state involvement in the area of marriage.


7 posted on 06/27/2013 5:37:25 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: markomalley

I like the thought process here....


8 posted on 06/27/2013 5:37:34 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: markomalley

Let it go, please let it go! The internet, the TV and the talk radio shows are all full of this DOMA crap. I’m tired of watching this squirrel. We have much more important political issues to pay attention to. The homosexuals can go marry chickens for all I care.


9 posted on 06/27/2013 5:37:45 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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People who get married in the church should abandon the practice of making marriages legal by registering with the government.

If you have a church ceremony, you are morally married.

Dispense with the piece of paper, and the feral government has no further say.

10 posted on 06/27/2013 5:37:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed that one day pro wrestling would be less fake than network news?)
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IMO, good idea. Think I’ll start using that phraseology. Give them “marriage.” Let’s see how blasphemous the Left can become. After ringing the National Cathedral bells yesterday I’m curious...


11 posted on 06/27/2013 5:41:12 PM PDT by madison10
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“Let it go, please let it go! The internet, the TV and the talk radio shows are all full of this DOMA crap. I’m tired of watching this squirrel. We have much more important political issues to pay attention to. The homosexuals can go marry chickens for all I care.”

OK, so you solves those “more important issues”. Now tell me how your let this crap fester and you’ll take care of it later? BTW, our sons and daughters will be subjected to homosexuality, rape, sodomy, sexual assault all the while. Hope you can live with yourself knowing that.

Homosexuals are mentally deranged and must not be trusted with children!


12 posted on 06/27/2013 5:42:22 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: markomalley

The Church should - stop filling in and submitting documents to the state and then change the requirements for a person to receive Holy Matrimony in a Church.

People can then go and to a registry office to have the marriage sanctioned/recognized by the state if that is what they want.

They do this in places like Singapore. First they will do the legal wedding and then the Church service later.

Firstly though the Pope needs to make it clear to all clergy that anyone performing a service or “wedding” for homos will be forcibly excommunicated i.e. kicked out of the church - their living accommodation the full works. Not this “has “automatically excommunicated themselves but nothing is ever done rubbish”.

Mel


13 posted on 06/27/2013 5:42:36 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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I think giving up a perfectly good word because judges, pols, or the voting public have such a hard time defining it is foolish. I mean we didn’t change the word because of civil divorce and remarriage. I don’t think we should let the people that have the problem make us change. No one suggests that we quit using the word priest because some wackadoos think they can be ‘women priests.’

If you want a concrete way to demonstrate the difference between what the Church knows marriage to be and the state, stopping acting as the state’s representatives for the civil side might be the way to go. Explain why the change is being made, show everyone that yes, it is a big deal. It’s not like the Church looks at the civil recognition as the determining factor to decide if someone is married or not anyhow if you consider civil divorce and remarriage.

Freegards


14 posted on 06/27/2013 5:44:15 PM PDT by Ransomed
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IMO, good idea. Think I’ll start using that phraseology. Give them “marriage.” Let’s see how blasphemous the Left can become. After ringing the National Cathedral bells yesterday I’m curious...

Honestly, they'll put on their little whiny voices and cry: "it's not faaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrr that I can't have Holy Matrimony toooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

15 posted on 06/27/2013 5:45:01 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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yes... the word marriage has been defiled
16 posted on 06/27/2013 5:45:20 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Let it go, please let it go! The internet, the TV and the talk radio shows are all full of this DOMA crap. I’m tired of watching this squirrel. We have much more important political issues to pay attention to.

If that's so, why bother to read the thread, and then post on the thread?

17 posted on 06/27/2013 5:53:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree with this statement


18 posted on 06/27/2013 5:57:38 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: markomalley
I would just set aside the notion of marriage.

Did it twice, can't recommend it.

19 posted on 06/27/2013 6:04:48 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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B T T T ! ! ! ©

20 posted on 06/27/2013 6:13:50 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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