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1 posted on 07/22/2013 10:36:50 AM PDT by juliosevero
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Revelation 22:17 is clear that Calvin was wrong.

God doesn’t pick and choose who is saved. Jesus even tried to convert the hard hearted Pharisees. Why would he even waste his time?

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of The Lord shall be saved”. Romans 10:13


2 posted on 07/22/2013 10:44:34 AM PDT by kingpins10
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“No human, natural or preternatural agency can destroy the Church or Christian civilisation;
when evil becomes unbearable to the individual who trusts God, or to society, God will work a miracle if necessary to overcome it.”
--Fr Gerald Culleton, The Prophets and Our Times (1941)

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   Jesus, someone mentioned some time ago to me that you will
give no more signs, You said it to the Pharisees; he said this when I
said that this guidance (message) is from You.

   Vassula, when I said this to the Pharisees I meant My miracles of
the time I was in flesh and among them; condemning Me now, for it is
to condemn My Heavenly Works, shows how arid and closed their
hearts have become; My signs will never end; My Presence will be felt
in the world and I will continue to show Myself in signs;
   believe, believe O men of little faith, do not distort My Word, for
what have you to say about Fatima; are you dreading to believe that I
am the One who gave you this sign? O men of little faith, what would
you not declare rather than accept that Heaven’s signs are from Me!
love my My Works, accept My Works; believe, believe in Me, I, who am
Infinite Wealth and Mercy; My signs are so that all men see that Love
has not forgotten you; Love has not withdrawn and glories in His
Glory; Love is among you, never leaving you;
~Jesus, May 28, 1987 True Life in God

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The Warning and the Miracle

3 posted on 07/22/2013 10:47:55 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: juliosevero; SeekAndFind; Gamecock

Thanks for reposting this in the Religion Forum. Will you be participating in this thread?


6 posted on 07/22/2013 10:58:51 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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The grave error here is that the entire premise of the article is built around the legitimacy (or illegitimacy) of “Calvinism”. Further, Sproul did not say what the author puts in his mouth (cessationism). But, it makes for good controversy...just no light.


8 posted on 07/22/2013 11:09:41 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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This article wanders all over the farm, but interesting. Regarding Reagan, my earliest memories from 1959 was my father watching Reagan on TV and lamenting: “Why can’t someone like him be President?” Remember at that point Reagan had not ventured into politics. My Dad was not Pat Boone and he wasn’t claiming to speak prophecy, but he beat Boone to the punch by 10 years!


9 posted on 07/22/2013 11:18:16 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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We have been discussing this very topic in our Sunday School class on theology. We delved into Dr. Wayne Grudem’s conjecture that N.T. prophecy is different from O.T. prophecy. It exists, but it must be tested. This is because, in his view, it can be flawed.

He contends that most evangelical congregants are not strict cessationists with regards to miraculous gifts; e.g., tongues, prophecy, and healing. Instead he categorizes them as “Open but cautious”.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 11:26:39 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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And yet there is so much false prophecy...


16 posted on 07/22/2013 11:35:14 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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Instead of letting someone else speak for RC Sproul, how about a link to the man's explanation himself?

Does R.C. Sproul Believe in Miracles?

His explanation seems to comport with classical Christian belief.

I can say that after reading some accounts of the church growing in places like China and Africa, there seem to be stories akin to the first chapters of the book of Acts; people speaking in tongues, miraculous healings, etc.....I think these accounts, if accurate, reflect God working in a geographic place that has been "dormant" for centuries--as He did in the early days of the church when The Way was just beginning.

21 posted on 07/22/2013 12:03:24 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Ive had a few prophetic dreams in my life. You know them when you have them. But they weren’t for the world, big historical events. Instead they were at important turning points in my life, dealing with relationships with other people, or the salvation of one I really cared about.

Lately, it’s sort of just reading the Bible and turning on the tv.


22 posted on 07/22/2013 12:04:11 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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Yes, Sproul is a cessationist in that he believes that miracles like raising people from the dead, etc. happen no more.

However, the nice thing about RC Sproul is that he often admits he is not right about everything and is open to having his mind changed by God.

EX: I remember reading that he once did not believe in a literal 7 day creation but he said his mind is now changing on that.

26 posted on 07/22/2013 12:15:59 PM PDT by what's up
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Just because there is much so called prophecy out there that doesn’t come to pass, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t or can’t happen.

The bigger problem is people looking for sensationalism, either to have *words* spoken over them or more prideful, seeking the gift so they can speak over others.

My take on the matter is to live a life so that should God decide to use me to give a word to someone, He can use me to be that conduit. And that means dying to self, which I don’t see happening in all the people who chase after the gifts or manifestations.


34 posted on 07/22/2013 1:00:46 PM PDT by metmom (rFor freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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Amazing, 38 posts about Sproul and prophecy, and not a word said about him being a Preterist. Sproul believes all prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD. Makes no difference, whether Bible prophecy or from individuals who claim the spiritual gift of prophecy, its all false to him.


39 posted on 07/22/2013 2:26:15 PM PDT by sasportas
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“I see Calvinist churches ordaining gays, supporting abortion and boycotts against Israel, especially in Europe and America. Should I conclude that Calvinist churches are not genuine Christian churches?”

Not the Calvinist church I’m a member of-Presbyterian Church in America(PCA). I don’t think you’d see such behavior in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church(OPC), Evangelical Presbyterian Church(EPC) the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church(ARP) or the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America(RPCNA) either.


41 posted on 07/22/2013 7:46:43 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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Dude's wrong:

Now that's prophetic.....:-)

53 posted on 07/23/2013 12:37:26 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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I would have to disagree with Sproul that there is no gift of prophecy today. Prophets didn't just predict the future. They admonished God's people to come back to the straight path.

That doesn't mean, of course, that everyone who claims to be a prophet is one.

55 posted on 07/24/2013 1:58:48 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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