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Does the Catholic Church Teach "Doctrines of Demons?"
Catholic Answers ^ | July 21, 2013 | Tim Staples

Posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by NYer

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To: MarkBsnr

Yep.


641 posted on 07/30/2013 5:35:21 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: editor-surveyor

Delusional fail.

What are the names of the children attributed to Joseph?

What are the names of the children attributed to Mary?

What are the verses which say Mary had other children?

What are the verses which say Joseph had children?

Actually, don’t bother, I already know the answer. NONE!

You do not have the power to demand the composition of God’s word be by your choice.

Thanks for playing.


642 posted on 07/30/2013 5:39:17 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette
Thanks for the truth! Even Luther, Zwingli and Calvin knew as much!

Essays for Lent: Mary Ever-Virgin
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Aeiparthenos (An Anglo-Catholic Priest on Mary's Perpetual Virginity)
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Luther, Calvin, and Other Early Protestants on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary

643 posted on 07/30/2013 5:50:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

LOL, thanks for the encouraging words but I am a mere novice when compared to you. :)


644 posted on 07/30/2013 6:12:52 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: MarkBsnr; editor-surveyor

Maybe you can do a good, old fashioned ‘inquisition’ on ‘im...


645 posted on 07/30/2013 7:36:00 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Maybe you can do a good, old fashioned ‘inquisition’ on ‘im...

What's the point? He's not Christian by any indication of his posts. If you are not Christian, then the Inquisition does not apply. You're off the hook, my friend. Happy, happy, joy, joy.

646 posted on 07/30/2013 7:41:20 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: narses
Greek exceeds my very limited abilities. But it would be nice.

There are three liturgical languages of the Church. English is not one of them.

647 posted on 07/30/2013 7:42:24 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Jvette

Yes, playing is exactly what you’re doing.

We know that Yeshua had brothers, by the testimony of the apostles. We know that the apostle James was the brother of Yeshua by the testimony of Paul to the galatians.

We know that Paul got his knowledge directly from Yeshua, on the Damascus road, so there can be no doubt that James truly was Yeshua’s brother.

Why would anyone want to deny these things? Whyu would anyone wish to deny Joseph and Mary the joy of a large family?

It’s truly a strange club that you people belong to.


648 posted on 07/30/2013 7:50:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MarkBsnr

Yehova Elohim, king of the universe, who brings forth bread from the Earth speaks only Hebrew in his word.

I know that it is an old English tradition to disrespect everyone’s name by mispronouncing them, but speaking English is no reason to disobey Yehova’s commandments, especially his name.

You may continue to disrespect Yehova; that is between you and him. I choose to respect and obey him.


649 posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Iscool

Looks like he’s done an inquisition on himself.

I’d hate to be him on that day...


650 posted on 07/30/2013 8:12:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MarkBsnr

Where’s my UnSee button!!??


651 posted on 07/30/2013 8:17:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yet again you give me a verse that does not call James the son of Mary or of Joseph. There were two James in the NT. One was the son of Zebedee and the other the son of Mary, wife of Clopas.

Paul’s use of the word brother here is not regarding a biological connection but a spiritual one.

Another Fail.


652 posted on 07/30/2013 8:28:11 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette

Paul the apostle knew who James was and who Yeshua was.

Nice try at deception. James the apostle was a blood brother of the Lord according to Paul not spiritual; that was a real foul ball.


653 posted on 07/30/2013 8:33:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jvette; editor-surveyor
Paul’s use of the word brother here is not regarding a biological connection but a spiritual one. Another Fail.

Luk 8:19 Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press.
Luk 8:20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.

According to you, Jesus' mother shows up with Jesus' spiritual brethren...But, they can not get any where near him...

Luk 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

According to you then, Jesus denies his spiritual brethren along with his mother, points to the crowd and says 'these are my spiritual brethren, right here in front of me...THEY (not the spiritual brethren outside with my mother) hear the word of God and do it...So then we have to conclude the 'other' spiritual brethren did not hear the word of God and do it...

And of course to do that would be ridiculous...It doesn't make the least bit of sense...It's not believable...The idea that your theory could be correct is well beyond the realm of possibility...

654 posted on 07/30/2013 8:47:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
THEY (not the spiritual brethren outside with my mother) hear the word of God and do it...So then we have to conclude the 'other' spiritual brethren did not hear the word of God and do it...

Movin' too fast...Forgot to add:

If Jesus' spiritual brethren who were with his mother did not hear the word of God AND DO IT, as Jesus indicates, they then could not have been Jesus' spiritual brethren...Just his natural brothers...

655 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
Yehova Elohim, king of the universe, who brings forth bread from the Earth speaks only Hebrew in his word.

How do you know? Chapter and verse, please.

I know that it is an old English tradition to disrespect everyone’s name by mispronouncing them, but speaking English is no reason to disobey Yehova’s commandments, especially his name.

Yes, yes, I know. For instance, the real name of editor-surveyor is spelled Raymond Luxury Yacht, but pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove. Good point.

You may continue to disrespect Yehova; that is between you and him. I choose to respect and obey him.

Bully for you. Pretentious cloaking in pseudo-Hebraic nomenclature does not indicate worship of the Lord God Almighty. It only indicates, well, pretentiousness.

656 posted on 07/31/2013 4:42:04 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Elsie

That’s just my Sunday magic underwear. You should see what I wear during the week.


657 posted on 07/31/2013 4:43:15 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Jvette
Paul the apostle knew who James was and who Yeshua was.

Come on, oh wise one. What is the name of James in Hebrew? If you are not consistent in foolishness, why then you will only seem foolish.

Nice try at deception. James the apostle was a blood brother of the Lord according to Paul not spiritual; that was a real foul ball.

Not as foul as those Judaizers who seek to pervert Christianity away from what Jesus taught us.

658 posted on 07/31/2013 4:47:27 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Iscool
Don't get me wrong,I do think Mary had other children but I don't think Jesus was necessarily denying that those other brethren were hearing and doing the Word.He included Mary in what He said and there's no doubt she heard and did God's word.Maybe Jesus was also imparting...'don't just consider those natural physical people over there my closest relatives...all who hear the Word and do it are my closest family' ...which kind of just defeats what I was attempting to say :-/

Certainly one to ponder.The responses should be interesting.

659 posted on 07/31/2013 5:09:56 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: mitch5501

Then from Jesus’ words biological relationships were not of great importance compared to the spiritual. As John the baptizer had earlier said, God was able to raise children to Abraham from the stones.

That would explain why Jesus chose the apostle John to care for Mary, John was a more reliable and spiritually trustworthy man than even Jesus’ half-brothers.


660 posted on 07/31/2013 6:38:02 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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