Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel
I only lay it out in such a way as to make it easy to understand. By all means do your own research. :-)
It's all pretty awesome!
They already knew after the first 5 seals that it was the wrath of God already.
Revelation 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Not “is coming” or “will come” but “is come” as in “it’s here”.
Then where is the bill of her divorcement?
Wait a minute. I have read Isaiah 52 three times now. I do not see where the Jews are called the “married wife”. Please give me the actual Scripture number so I can see this for myself. Thanks.
God Bless, smvoice
Seriously, I'm not sure why the almighty choose to reveal some of the mystery, but not all of it at once. Much still remains a mystery. We have to go by what we've been given. We are promised more will be revealed in the end. Maybe our puny brains just can't handle it all, or maybe it has to be kept a secret from the evil which now rules this world?
I think He HAS already revealed the Mystery to us. It was given as a series of revelations from the risen Christ to Paul, the person chosen by Christ to reveal the Church the BOdy of Christ and this dispensation of Grace that we now live in. Remember, Paul said he was given revelations (plural) and that we were to follow him as he followed Christ. All that we need to know about this age of the grace of God and reconciliation to Him have been divulged. IMHO. We’re just awaiting the final member of the Body to be saved and brought into the Body. Then we’re gone. And it’s off to the tribulation for the unbelievers. That’s what Romans through Philemon teaches us. BTW: nowhere else in the Bible talks about this time of the grace of God. Why? Because it was a mystery, a secret, hid in God since the foundation of the world, until revealed to Paul. See how succinctly and perfectly His Word fits?!
That’s what God asked to of the silly people who teach that He divorced Israel. He simply punished her by putting her away but as seen in verse two He will redeem her.
Isaiah 50:1 Thus saith the Lord, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away. 2 Wherefore, when I came, was there no man? when I called, was there none to answer? Is my hand shortened at all, that it cannot redeem?
The “bill of divorcement” is simply a warning that He never carried through as seen in Isaiah 50.
Jeremiah 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
God said He would never forsake His people.
In Deuteronomy 4:31, God made a promise never to forsake His people, "For the LORD thy God is a merciful God; he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them."
Those who teach that God divorced the Jewish people need to rethink their position on certain verses or agree that they believe God did not stand jup to His promises.
The more I learn the more awestruck and thankful and humbled I am.
They (the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man) just are going to think it has come. The terrible wrath (woe) appears to come after the 7th seal is opened (rev. 8), after those in Yeshua have been removed from the scene (rev. 7).
No, only a very small portion to date. There are numerous scriptures that explain this fact. I'll give you just this one to consider, since I'm in that book now. ;)
Rev. 10:4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
So the Holy Spirit couldn’t have used a word to indicate that? Did the Holy Spirit not know what words meant? Read through the first portion of Revelation 6. All the carnage is caused by God because of His anger. Not once did God subject His faithful followers to His anger or wrath. In fact He told us we would not experience His wrath.
Websites are for scripture deniers and twisters like you. I stick with the scriptures that you reject; they are infallible.
Revelation 6 is a perfect example of how you attempt to force your view on scripture. Chapter 6 has the wrath at the end of the chapter, and you attempt to place it at the beginning, making no sense at all, since the beginning of the chapter depicts events form over 1000 years ago.
Give up on your websites and their pre-trib concoctions.
Well said!
When you actually back up your beliefs with scripture as I have get back to me.
There again, I believe he is referring to that which will be poured out on the earth after the 7th seal. By the use of "His" wrath divides the tribulation and this division is centered around the "day of the Lord". The book of Revelation is not chronological - but you probably know this.
>> “When you actually back up your beliefs with scripture as I have get back to me” <<
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Are you trying to make us all laugh?
You demolish an entire chapter of Revelation, and condense thousands of years and place it in the 3-1/2 year tribulation and then say that it backs up your twisted beliefs?
The seals cover from the beginning to the end of the time of man. Can you not see that?
The wrath of Yehova arrives at the end of the chapter.
Rev. 1: [19] Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
You make the past into the future in your imaginings.
You do not know how to read the book.
Sorry, my bad - Is 50, see from halfway 49 that he is talking of Zion (Jerusalem/Judah), and by 50 is talking to the daughter thereof. See 52 'daughter of Zion sold herself for nothing' enforces that her mother got no bill of divorcement.
Srry, btw so late - had to take my daughter back to her mom.
Then Judah/Zion is the married wife, having never been divorced - So who is the barren woman (Is 54) told to jump for joy after the death of Messiah (Is 53)? Here is another hint: How was she widowed?
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