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Rescuing Souls
http://proclaimingthegospel.org/equip/articles/54-rescuing-souls ^ | unknown | Mike Gendron

Posted on 10/05/2013 10:09:16 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: Arthur McGowan
That's the Catholic position regarding the place of Scripture as a source of revelation.

That's the Protestant position regarding anything having to do with the House of YHWH. If you say something to a Protestant about the things of YHWH, it better be defensible in the Word, and not by way of a verse here and a verse there, twisted to fit the thought...

But that still leaves plenty of room for Protestant tradition (subservient to the Bible). Just go to a library or bookstore and look at the formidable works written by Protestant hands (using 'protestant' in the broad sense). But one way or another, your use of ONLY is not valid. That is solo-scriptura.

101 posted on 10/06/2013 8:05:13 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: narses
When you sin, what do you do?

“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “

Well, I have received the Holy Spirit...So do I forgive myself???

I suspect that every time you come across a post of ours that contains scripture (which is very often), you and the rest of your team mates skip right over the scriptures posted...

I'm going to post some scripture that if you read it, you likely won't get it...But if you do get it, you won't believe it...But you would do well to pay attention to it...

1Jn 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

There's more to this story but every word in these scriptures is true...

102 posted on 10/06/2013 9:16:20 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Arthur McGowan
For a long time after Acts was written, it was not universally held to be part of the inspired Scripture. It was a final decision by the Catholic Church in Rome that definitively placed Acts in the canon of Scripture. Anyone who holds with certainty that Acts is inspired is depending on a decision by the Church in Rome.

Now that's a goofy statement...I wasn't aware of the Catholic position on Acts and I believed Acts was inspired the moment I opened the book in the bible...

It's apparent to me that you don't spend any time in the bible or you would know that God gave us the bible, not some pagan religion...

103 posted on 10/06/2013 9:22:27 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: narses

Right....got anything else?


104 posted on 10/07/2013 12:59:30 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

“...This eliminates all the requirements Roman Catholics have added ...”

This is the author’s opinion only and not backed up by God’s Word.

Paul to the Colossians in Colossians 2 Chapter Verse 24

Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church.


105 posted on 10/07/2013 4:48:51 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

This is generally the view of one not filled with the Spirit. We don’t give our opinion, we state truth as imparted to us by His Spirit.


106 posted on 10/07/2013 5:33:25 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

“..This is generally the view of one not filled with the Spirit...”

It is a direct scripture quote. Therefore this is the truth imparted by His Spirit.


107 posted on 10/07/2013 5:54:17 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

One can read Scripture without correctly discerning its meaning.


108 posted on 10/07/2013 6:14:45 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: stonehouse01; jodyel
WE have everything we need in Christ.

Ephesians 1:3-10 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

When Jesus died on the cross, He said, "It is finished.".

Suffering does not purify from sin. It has other work to do in the believer.

109 posted on 10/07/2013 6:19:03 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

“Suffering does not purify us from sin...”

Correct.


110 posted on 10/07/2013 6:26:49 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: jodyel

Who determines which meaning is correctly discerned?


111 posted on 10/07/2013 6:34:41 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

The Holy Spirit.


112 posted on 10/07/2013 6:37:54 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

1 Epistle of St. John the Apostle Chapter 4

Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit: but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

The interpretation that works are still being accepted as St. Paul tells us in Colossians is not the same as the interpretation that works are no longer accepted. (Not necessary, accepted) Discernment applies - one man’s opinion of what the Holy Spirit means might be different than another man’s.


113 posted on 10/07/2013 7:23:05 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

Yes, that is what Catholics always say.

Narses and his YOPIOS comes to mind.

But believers are not left to interpret Scripture with frail human understanding. We have been born again and filled with the Spirit who rightly discerns its meaning for us.

Anyone can quote Scripture but not everyone, outside of the Spirit, can understand it.


114 posted on 10/07/2013 7:38:12 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

The author of this article has decided he is filled with the correct Spirit. T is his own opinion that he is filled with the correct spirit. It is his own determination that he can understand scripture and the rest of us can’t.

He could very well be wrong about his own understanding and has no definitive proof, other than his own feeling that he is born again and filled with the spirit. Catholics are born again and filled with the spirit also.

Subjective relativism at its finest.


115 posted on 10/07/2013 7:49:30 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Arthur McGowan; HiTech RedNeck
My point was that it seems improbable that, if God willed that ONLY writings were to be the source of our belief, that those writings themselves would make no mention of that fact.

Arthur, i would posit that the Lord basically did teach that only writings were the supreme transcendent standard for faith and obedience (which does not exclude reason, the church or other helps), as they are abundantly evidenced to be that standard.

And and it was upon Scriptural substantiation in text and in power that He established His claims, as did the apostles and early church. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27,44; Jn. 5:36,39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

This is in contrast to the alternative in which the stewards of Scripture, and inheritors of promises of God's presence and perpetuation, and who had historical descent are the supreme indisputable authority (all of which RCs argue makes Rome to be so).

116 posted on 10/07/2013 8:41:14 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: stonehouse01

Indeed not, stonehouse01, but one not born again of the Spirit will always think this way.

You must be born again...not just think you are born again. Once you are, there is no doubt and you have eternal security and many other things that Catholicism does not teach.

No opinion, just Spirit-filled truth.

God bless you,
jodyel


117 posted on 10/07/2013 8:42:50 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: caww

Sounds to me like you don’t believe in the “temple of the living God.” Well then, how about the Koran? That’s a book too.


118 posted on 10/07/2013 9:15:59 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: metmom

Making a statement like “Bible is a book by men” is rather telling isn’t it? Unless one gets who actually those words in the Bible come from there isn’t much discussion worth having with that person.


119 posted on 10/07/2013 9:55:36 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Arthur McGowan
>>For a long time after Acts was written, it was not universally held to be part of the inspired Scripture.<<

Says who? Peter seems to believe that all the writings of the apostles were considered scripture.

2 Peter 3:15b. As also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given him, [16] as in all his letters, speaking concerning these matters, in which some things are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also THE OTHER SCRIPTURES. [17] You then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being let away with the delusion of the lawless.

120 posted on 10/07/2013 10:05:07 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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