Posted on 12/29/2013 5:22:47 PM PST by Star Traveler
I’ve read the book and his message is “the King is coming”, “look up, lift up your heads” and “are you ready?” I know some people will call that scare tactics but I think he’s sincerely sounding a warning.
Concur.
That’s good to hear, from someone who has read it. And that certainly is not scare tactics. In fact telling anyone about anything that the Bible says - is not scare tactics.
Rotate the area 90 degrees clockwise so that west becomes "north".
Crown - Sinai
Face, Head, and long neck - Jordan
Eye (Al Jafr Basin, not marked on above map)
Hair - Israel, Lebanon
Ear - "West Bank"
Body - Iraq
Paw - Kuwait
Jordan Iraq border - 1 Samuel 17:51
The beast map. A metaphorical mecca. The Sphinx at Giza faces its own image on the ground, which prostrates toward Mecca (1 Samuel 17:49). Its heart is in Babylon. Etc.
What are you talking about?
What do you wish to be obfuscated?
The first five seals are opened, how difficult can that be?
The King is coming, but it will be at the last trump, just as the King said.
Lots of other things have to come first, before the King comes. First things first! The trib has to run its course too.
Those that are not his are without his law. They despise it; they would rather spend eternity in the lake that burns than please him.
The "works of the law" speaks of the Pharisee's law (Takanot) which was hung on the cross, not Yehova's Torah.
Cute! Except that in Scripture, north south east and west are always in reference to Jerusalem.
You have lots of misinformation there from a Jewabe site.
For the first two full centuries, every believer in Yeshua kept his sabbaths and feasts just as he and his apostles did.
There was neither Jew nor gentile, just as the epistles of Paul emphasize. Read the epistles carefully, and you will see the traditional worship perfectly kept. This is of course not surprising, as most of the body was Hebrews anyway, but that is definitely what was called for in Acts 15, where the council of Jerusalem stated that they expected that the new believers would learn ‘Moses’ by hearing him preached “every sabbath day” in their synagogue. (Acts 15:21)
Real messianic worship is not the Jewabe nonsense of keeping the Pharisee’s traditions that Yeshua rejected, but that is what is seen in many “messianic” congregations.
In scripture everything is FOB Jerusalem!
If you have another site that lists the characteristics of a Messianic congregation better than this - please feel free to put the link down here so.we can look at it.
Yeshua’s words in the gospels are what properly describe a Messianic Congregation. Nothing else can.
Reading the Acts and the epistles describe a proper congregation, keeping every sabbath, and every feast as they did.
New Testament worship consisted of resting and studying the word on the sabbath, and then at sundown getting together for a potluck meal, and teaching. This was known as Havdalah, or “the first day of the week” (Saturday evening)
The catholic church twisted this into Sunday morning.
Since you wish to add to Scripture, back up your assertion and give us dates and events when they were opened.
Your sarcasm is hardly worth an answer.
I accept scripture, I do not add to it. You seem to find yourself unable to accept clear scriptures that are in conflict with your non-scriptural theology.
I’d like to know also. You say you are not a historicist, if you say the first seal (first horseman of the apocalypse) is the end time antichrist going forth with war, famine, pestilence in his wake (the other horsemen), then, indeed you are not a historicist. However, if you interpret the first horseman as some figure of history, Nero, one of the emperors of imperial Rome, or Papal Rome, Mussolini, etc., then you are historicist plain and simple.
If you would just tell us who you interpret the first horseman to be, it would settle the issue.
The horseman cannot be antichrist, he comes after the seals.
The first horseman is the chain of human governments setting out to conquer the people and their rights through their “Mystery Babylon” cliques.
Part of Revelation has to be past, and part has to be future to satisfy Yeshua’s commission to John.
In answering you, this is where we tie in the subject of this thread, the sun and moon darkened in Joel and Acts 2.
If we look at the sixth seal, I see it describing the astronomics of the day of the Lord, “immediately after the tribulation of those days,” Matt. 24:29, closing out the end time great tribulation.
And what precedes the day of the Lord but the great tribulation itself? a time period of three and one half years. Which is what I see described in the martyrdom of the fifth seal.
But before you can have the 3 1/2 year end time great tribulation you must have the central figure of it, the antichrist, which is what I see described in the first four seals - his going forth.
Thus by working backwards from the sixth seal, the day of the Lord (sun darkened moon turned to blood), to the first seal, it, in my view, indicates that the first seal has to be the end time antichrist.
This, of course, is not the way historicists interpret the seals.
You started out OK, but you want to hide John’s commission.
The 70th week begins with the events that bring the world’s economy down, and they have to fill the first 42 months. I’m not ready to say that we are seeing those events now, and I think that the Psalm 83 war and Zechariah’s nuclear attack (the evil fire in an eppah with a lead cover) probably will precipitate them.
As for the martyrdom, it has been ongoing since the temple fell. It intensified in the 7th century. The Abomination doesn’t “go forth,” he stands on the holy seat, and that moment is when Yeshua said that the trib begins. We’re supposed to be watching for the number of his name; are you?
it has been ongoing since the temple fell
What I tried to bring out about the seals in my last post must have flew right over your head.
Fantasy flew over my head.
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