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The Ancient, Biblical Christian Practice of Venerating Relics
Aleteia ^ | 17.09.2013 | Brantly Millegan

Posted on 02/03/2014 6:51:46 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: Brian Kopp DPM
How does interrupting a burial and throwing a man in a hole to get away from marauding Moabites become relic veneration? The man revives after hitting Elisha's bones. Nothing more is said about the incident. Centuries later, venerate relics.

As for touching the hem of Christ clothes Jesus said her 'faith' had saved her, not the act ie. work of her touching.

Acts 11

11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.

God was doing, don't praise God for His mercy, preserve handkerchiefs and aprons to venerate. The handkerchiefs and aprons weren't the source of the power that performed the healing acts, God was.

21 posted on 02/03/2014 8:41:31 AM PST by xone
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

This is like worshipping little shards of the Buddha’s tooth.

http://web.archive.org/web/20091026165608/http://geocities.com/mstkg/tooth.htm

Pagans go crazy over this kind if stuff. They love it.

As Christians, we ought not to.


22 posted on 02/03/2014 8:42:49 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
So Protestants (and Catholics) may be surprised to learn that the Church’s beliefs and practices surrounding relics actually come from the Bible and the early Church.

2 Kings 13 20-22 Interesting Eisegesis.

The early "ekklesia" consisted of Torah observant messianic Jews,
and therefore they did not believe in and rejected Pagan Traditions
such as worshipping bones, blood, and garments.

The tzitzit on the corners of the Tallit ( prayer shawl )
consist of knots which spell out the NAME of the LORD (YHvH).
And thus have nothing to do with Pagan Relics. The woman was
calling on the NAME of the LORD for salvation.

In Acts 19.11-12, Paul is alive.

This article is either purposefully deceitful or
shows complete ignorance of Holy Scriptures.
This exercise consists of ripping verses out of context
in order to prove the existing Pagan Traditions.

What is the need of Pagan Tradition when
calling on the NAME of Yah'shua is all
that is needed for salvation ?

Since Jesus' NAME in Hebrew is Yah'shua
which in Hebrew means YHvH be/is my Salvation !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
23 posted on 02/03/2014 8:44:04 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: humblegunner

OK. So be a saint!


24 posted on 02/03/2014 8:47:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: humblegunner
I’ve got a jar of toenail clippings for sale.

Simony is a sin (yeah, I know you were being facetious).
25 posted on 02/03/2014 8:47:53 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Mrs. Don-o
So be a saint!

Can't.

Got kicked out of Saint school the first week.

26 posted on 02/03/2014 8:49:55 AM PST by humblegunner
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The Ancient, Biblical Christian Practice of Venerating Relics

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27 posted on 02/03/2014 8:51:18 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Albion Wilde

Wow, thanks for the link!


28 posted on 02/03/2014 8:55:31 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Obviously the Old Testament King Hezekiah did not share the belief in relics.

2Ki 18:4
He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

If this had not happened I wonder what chapels would be built for it, and votive offerings would today’s Christians be offering to it! After all, it is connected directly with Moses!


29 posted on 02/03/2014 8:59:02 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: humblegunner; .45 Long Colt; Gamecock
I’ve got a jar of toenail clippings for sale.

FWIW, I hear that Catherine of Sienna's wedding ring may be available, too.

I'm always amazed that Catholics don't consider it blasphemy for them to fill Tupperware containers with odd bits of skin that dropped off of Jesus during his life. They go apoplectic when Protestants take notice of their pantry shelves, however!

30 posted on 02/03/2014 9:05:28 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: xone

EXACTLY right bump.


31 posted on 02/03/2014 9:18:31 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

You forgot to include.... pagans wore clothes....... :-)


32 posted on 02/03/2014 9:40:33 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: humblegunner

Knock on the door, hard. Make them let you in.


33 posted on 02/03/2014 10:01:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks for the original thread — lovely!


34 posted on 02/03/2014 10:10:21 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Unfortunately in our day many such bishops are unworthy of the office.

In our day? What was it St. John Chrysostom said about Hell being paved with bishop's skulls? No one is worthy of the episcopal office, though some, by God's grace, execute it well enough that in the end they will hear "Well done, good and faithful servant."

35 posted on 02/03/2014 7:25:16 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: humblegunner

If after your death the Latin church canonizes you, or the Orthodox proclaim your glorification, I’m sure there will be interested buyers when your estate puts it up for auction. If you’re hoping for that, you’ll need to devote rather more time to repentance of sins, prayer, fasting, almsgiving, and the like, and a bit less to suppressing blog pimps here at FR. In the meantime, I think we’ll all pass on the offer.

[:-)======


36 posted on 02/03/2014 7:30:28 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

For you are dust, And to dust you shall return. (Genesis 3;19)


37 posted on 02/04/2014 12:15:27 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: The_Reader_David

That’s the best post I’ve seen on FR so far this year.


38 posted on 02/04/2014 10:09:10 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Exodus 20:4, 5
39 posted on 02/04/2014 10:19:05 AM PST by SuperSonic (If I had a dog it would look like the one Obama ate!)
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