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Pope reveals he took his late confessor's cross
Associated Press ^ | March 6, 2014 | Nicole Winfield

Posted on 03/06/2014 6:23:40 AM PST by yldstrk

Edited on 03/06/2014 6:28:04 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Gamecock
And what is depicted in the crucifix?

Who do these men share a faith in in common?

If your confusion is over magic beads used in pointless ritual. You should have rather seen it as a good thing Francis removed some "magic beads" from the casket.

But you just want to insist on casting this in the worst light I see.

81 posted on 03/06/2014 6:29:50 PM PST by Bayard
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To: yldstrk

I think this would have been on MY list of things NOT to tell anyone!


82 posted on 03/06/2014 6:30:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Of course, not all religious take a vow of poverty.

And does a crucifix constitute something that even a non-vowed religious would insist on “keeping”?

How about the special significance that is happening at that funeral? The cultural differences that exist in an area of the world not in the USA.

How about the significant differences shared between religious as opposed to those who are not?


83 posted on 03/06/2014 6:34:18 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard
the morality of stealing, of which would apply to theft from a body in a casket. I'm telling you this has circumstances which change the nature of the act.

Pope Francis, admitting that he stole it.
"""And immediately there came to mind the thief we all have inside ourselves and while I arranged the flowers I took the cross and with just a bit of force I removed it," he said, showing with his hands how he pulled the cross off the rosary.""

Want to bet that he arranged the rosary to conceal that it was missing the stolen cross?

84 posted on 03/06/2014 6:38:36 PM PST by ansel12
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To: metmom
Catholicism never fails to disappoint.

The most outrageous act can be done by a Catholic and some other Catholics will come along and defend or excuse it away.

Not all Catholics are falling for the Jesuit imposter. Too many, but not all.

85 posted on 03/06/2014 6:45:09 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Bayard

>>Of course, not all religious take a vow of poverty.<<

Then why did you twice imply they did?

>>And does a crucifix constitute something that even a non-vowed religious would insist on “keeping”?<<

I would think so, especially if he asked to buried with his beloved rosary? How do you, or Francis, know he didn’t. How often do you rip apart rosaries of others, whether they’re living or dead?

>>How about the special significance that is happening at that funeral? The cultural differences that exist in an area of the world not in the USA.<<

What in the heck does cultural differences have to do with robbing the dead?

>>How about the significant differences shared between religious as opposed to those who are not?<<

How about it? Are you saying religious are allowed to rob their own dead, unlike laymen?


86 posted on 03/06/2014 6:47:42 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Iscool; Gamecock; Alex Murphy

By their doctrine Pope Francis sent a brother priest to Purgatory with an incomplete rosary.


87 posted on 03/06/2014 6:48:34 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Nice anigif. Probably what the funeral director was doing when he found out someone ‘nicked’ the priests rosary.


88 posted on 03/06/2014 6:50:44 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

For the record (my own) I have no opinion on this.


89 posted on 03/06/2014 6:52:26 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Gamecock

This defense of nicking a rosary is simply amazing. This is like MSNBC defending Obama.


90 posted on 03/06/2014 6:54:21 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: ebb tide

>>Then why did you twice imply they did?<<

Do you know all the circumstances? Same question. If you don’t know, I’m asking “why all the judgment?”

>>I would think so, especially if he asked to buried with his beloved rosary? How do you, or Francis, know he didn’t. How often do you rip apart rosaries of others, whether they’re living or dead?<<

Once again, how do you know?

>>What in the heck does cultural differences have to do with robbing the dead? What in the heck does cultural differences have to do with robbing the dead?<<

These are points to be considered. You do not know the nature of the relationship between these two, or the place the once worked together in, but you are very comfortable casting stones.


91 posted on 03/06/2014 6:56:17 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard; ebb tide; Gamecock; redleghunter
Not all religious orders take vows of poverty.

Over on another thread, we're hearing tales of FRoman Catholics who have taken the rosary out of their own mothers' coffins. Do you suppose their mothers took vows of poverty, too?

92 posted on 03/06/2014 6:56:26 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: redleghunter

I’m not sure the last three popes even believe / believed in Purgatory. Just about every time someone (e.g. Br Roger of Taize) died, they immediately announced that person was in Heaven.


93 posted on 03/06/2014 6:57:24 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Bayard

I know the nature between my wife and I, I certainly will not rip apart the rosary in her hands, should she die before me.


94 posted on 03/06/2014 6:59:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Bayard

They do work together a lot. That is how I learned respect for the deceased. Once they are prepared the items stay in the casket.


95 posted on 03/06/2014 6:59:42 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Elsie

Thanks for that. Men always love to hear about sharp objects near the private area.


96 posted on 03/06/2014 7:01:40 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Alex Murphy

What are the circumstances? We are talking about family in grief. There are differences.

This is certainly not the same as stealing a few thousand dollars, or the reputation of someone.


97 posted on 03/06/2014 7:03:37 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Alex Murphy

What are the circumstances? We are talking about family in grief. There are differences.

This is certainly not the same as stealing a few thousand dollars, or the reputation of someone.


98 posted on 03/06/2014 7:03:39 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Alex Murphy

What are the circumstances? We are talking about family in grief. There are differences.

This is certainly not the same as stealing a few thousand dollars, or the reputation of someone.


99 posted on 03/06/2014 7:03:41 PM PST by Bayard
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To: ebb tide

So he still carries the stolen item?


100 posted on 03/06/2014 7:04:12 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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