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1 posted on 03/19/2014 1:27:33 AM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 03/19/2014 1:27:54 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Heh, And some people blame the suffering person for their own suffering, saying it’s their own fault.


3 posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:29 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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Having been through poverty, meningitis,death,cancer, divorce, poverty again, divorce(yes again),and many other serious debilitating illnesses, not by my own power, but by the grace of God,(and in spite of me) I agree 100% with what St. Augustine says.

I remember reading all of the tribulations of St. Teresa of Avila and how she was crippled for years, actually pronounced dead and wax dropped in her eyes, only to awaken near the end of the wake.

When we are full of ourselves we have no room for God. Thus the great fall in the near future for our country is, at a higher level of understanding, truly a blessing.

This is a very timely posting. Thank you for posting the very important message.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 3:56:08 AM PDT by tired&retired
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By the way, the pill that eases the transition from pride to humility is gratitude.

I had a vision a few years ago where I was shown the importance of aligning my individual identity with God’s Will in order to forgo smashing my ego to dust through trials and tribulations. The trials and tribulations are merely the guardrails to keep us on the correct path.


5 posted on 03/19/2014 4:00:37 AM PDT by tired&retired
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Summary of St. Augustine’s City of God per Sparknotes

In A.D. 410, a pivotal moment in Western history, the Vandals, under the command of their king, Alaric, captured the city of Rome. Rome was known as the Eternal City because the Romans thought that it would literally never fall, and the year 410 shook this belief to its foundations and ultimately led to the collapse of the Roman Empire. The world itself seemed to have been destroyed, and everyone sought answers about what to do and what to believe in.

Those who adhered to the waning pagan faith were quick to blame the Christians, claiming that the gods had abandoned Rome because many Romans had forsaken them and taken the new faith. These Romans claimed that Christians were not patriotic enough because they asked people to serve God rather than the state, and they advocated forgiveness toward enemies. More important, they said the Christian God had failed to protect Rome, as he should have done, since Constantine had declared him to be the one true God. The angry wrangling between the two communities prompted Augustine to begin writing The City of God in 413.

The first ten books of The City of God, which make up the first part of the work, refute the pagans’ charges that Christians brought about the fall of Rome. The first five books deal with the pagan belief that people must worship the old gods to achieve material advantages in this world, including the continuation of the Roman Empire and the supremacy of the city of Rome.

In book I, Augustine attacks the pagans, who claimed that Rome fell because the Christian religion had weakened it, and he stresses that misfortune happens to everyone.

In book II, he demonstrates that the fall of Rome is not a unique event in human history. The Romans suffered calamities before, even when the old gods were being actively worshiped, and those gods did nothing to prevent those calamities from happening. He suggests Romans became weak because of these gods, since they gave themselves up to moral and spiritual corruption.

In book III, Augustine continues discussing catastrophes that occurred in pagan times to further prove that Christianity did not cause Rome to fall. To drive home his point, he asks again why the old gods did not defend Rome in the past.

In book IV, Augustine suggests an alternative view. Rome endured for many centuries because it was the will of the true God, and its survival had nothing to do with pagan gods such as Jove, who behaved only in the lowest manner.

To continue reading:

http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/augustine/section2.rhtml


6 posted on 03/19/2014 4:11:54 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: markomalley

I always get a kick out of folks that say things like “How can God let this happen?”

As if God’s purpose is to serve them - to make them comfortable.

People serve God, not the other way around. Life and strife go hand in hand. It’s up to us to deal with it as best we can.


7 posted on 03/19/2014 4:54:08 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: markomalley
for the non believer the Socrates concept of “wisdom is knowing you know nothing” fit exactly in with this
10 posted on 03/19/2014 6:07:06 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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13 posted on 03/19/2014 1:35:07 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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bkmk


14 posted on 03/19/2014 10:45:40 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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bump


15 posted on 03/20/2014 9:02:40 AM PDT by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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On Suffering as A Remedy for Something Worse. A Meditation on a Teaching from St. Augustine
What we can learn about suffering in the story of Joseph, the Patriarch
Where is God At Times Like These? A meditation in the wake of a violent atrocity [Prayer Ping]

Catholics, Get Ready to Suffer
Mood changes as pope, young people reflect on suffering in Way of CrossM
Following The Truth: Appreciating The Gift Of Suffering (Catholic or Open)
Cardinal Burke: suffering does not rid life of purpose
In historic TV Q&A, Pope Benedict speaks about suffering, comatose persons, persecution (Catholic)
Pope Addresses Suffering in Historic Television Appearance
(Why Am I Catholic?) For Peace While Suffering (A Few Words for Wednesday)
Praying in Sickness and Old Age
The Church as a Hospital
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Apostolate of Suffering Redux

Redemptive Suffering
Through church, Jesus ministers to all who are sick in the world
'Amazing Grace for Those Who Suffer'
Pope Benedict asks sick to offer up suffering for priests (Catholic Caucus)
Why Must I Suffer?
On the Advantages of Tribulations by Saint Alphonsus Liguori
Why Be Catholic? 3: Suffering [Ecumenical]
"Love Really Can Make Suffering Bearable": Woman with Spina Bifida
Experts at Euthanasia Symposium Stress Unity, Strategy, and the Triumph of Love over Suffering
Holy Father prays for peace and unity, encourages the suffering to trust in God

Joy-Filled Suffering, Laetare Sunday
Children 'Suffering >From Lack Of Two-Parent Family', Study Finds
Pope Says Euthanasia 'False Solution' to Suffering, Alludes to Comatose Woman's Fate
Excerpts from THE FRUITS OF HIS LOVE - The Value Of Suffering - Mother M. Angelica
Why Not You? (on suffering)
Vicar takes down crucifixion sculpture 'because it's a scary depiction of suffering'
The Value of Suffering in the Life of Christian Perfection
IN BRUSH WITH DEATH, PRIEST SHOWN HELL, PURGATORY, DEGREES OF SUFFERING
Prayers to Saint Agatha [For Those Suffering from Breast Cancer]
REDEMPTIVE SUFFERING(Catholic Caucus or by Invitation Only)

16 posted on 03/22/2014 9:26:35 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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