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To: Seven_0

>>>Maybe I am reading the types wrong but it seems to me that the wife of God would be the mother of his children.<<<

However, it states that Israel is both His wife and His children. And now Israel is also his mother? LOL!

No matter. We still have Galatians 4:25-26 which states that heavenly Jerusalem is the mother of us all, and that is a hard nut to crack.

I guess all things are possible; but in Revelation 12 the “mother” must also be the target of Satan, along with her Christian children. How does Israel fit into that scenario, unless the Church is Israel? There is no evidence of that.

Philip


78 posted on 04/20/2014 7:17:08 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau
No matter. We still have Galatians 4:25-26 which states that heavenly Jerusalem is the mother of us all, and that is a hard nut to crack.

No its not. Christ had a natural mother, Mary or Israel. In order to show that Heavenly Jerusalem is the mother of Christ you must show that Christ had a spiritual mother.

I guess all things are possible; but in Revelation 12 the “mother” must also be the target of Satan, along with her Christian children. How does Israel fit into that scenario, unless the Church is Israel? There is no evidence of that.

Every false doctrine has some evidence or it would be put to rest. When you compare Israel and the Church, Israel is the natural man and the Church is the spiritual man. Consider something you said in post 71

In my OPINION, in all that, Paul was explaining that the two sons of God, Adam and Jesus, were not similar, but different: one was carnal, and the other was spiritual: one represented death, the other represented life. We know Adam was also considered THE son of God, because of this:…

You have noticed the differences now look at some similarities. You may be aware that the bible divides into 5 Pentateuchs. The number 5 always divides into 4+1, so there are four groups in the Old Testament and 1 in the New Testament. The natural man always comes first followed by the spiritual man.

Compare the Pentateuch of Moses to the New Testament;
Genesis corresponds to the 4 Gospels
Exodus to Acts
Leviticus to Paul's letters
Numbers to the General Epistles - Peter, James, John and Jude
Deuteronomy to Revelation

It is easy to contrast the natural man with the spiritual man but the journey is remarkably similar. Of course the natural man is first and Genesis give the history of the natural man and ends in a coffin in Egypt while the Gospels give the history of the spiritual man and ends in the resurrection and ascension. In Exodus you have the natural man leaving the bondage of Egypt beginning his journey to the Promised Land. In Acts it is the spiritual man leaving the bondage of the city which spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. The church is in this period right now.

Leviticus takes the natural man into the earthly tabernacle and in Paul's letters the spiritual man enters the heavenly temple. This is especially notable in Ephesians and Hebrews. Paul's letters divide into two pentateuchs and Ephesians and Hebrews are in the third spot in their respective pentateuchs which corresponds to Leviticus.

Numbers takes the natural man into the desert or world and the general epistles take the spiritual man into the world. The number 4 in scripture speaks of trial and testing. Finally Deuteronomy brings the natural man to the threshold of the earthly promise and Revelation brings the spiritual man to the threshold of the heavenly promise.

In scripture, everything is in its place. Romans 5:14 says that Adam is a figure of him that was to come. We must have something in common between Adam and Christ for the word figure to be used.

If Joseph Smith had known about the structure of scripture he might not have written the Book of Mormon.

Seven
79 posted on 04/23/2014 11:12:23 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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