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To: thecodont; the_daug; Berlin_Freeper; HiTech RedNeck; imardmd1; Chainmail; The_Media_never_lie; ...

This isn’t directed to any one persons comment, but more of a general statement as to why I posted the story, and what I believe.

First off, thanks for those who defended my attempt to point out the obvious of stating what one needs to do to be saved and how I did not mean to accuse anyone of not being a Christian, but just wanted to point out the error of our way when we think we are real good when nothing we do is good. It’s all dung to God.

I am not pinging this to fabian, because he doesn’t even believe in the same Christ as we do, by his own admittance.

I do not believe the man in the story died, even if he thinks he did. I believe the_daug said it best, by the idea the guy was probably oxygen deprived and not dead. deep sleep maybe, and I think God used a dream to wake him up, not physically, but spiritually.

God has often times used dreams to speak to us. So no, he was not dead, and I should have added this when i posted the story. For that I apologize.

I also agree that the very fact that hell exists should tell us why we should change our lives. Hell was created for Satan and the angels who fell with him, but God will send any human there if that is their choice, He would rather not and I believe it hurts Him to do so when we reject Him for such a terrible place out of ignorance.

I posted this story, just because it was a very good read.

I cannot remember his name, but there was a very good well known preacher from the 1800’s who said that if every man spent 5 seconds in hell they would never go against God.

I agree, but then we would not be choosing him off His Word, but instead off empirical evidence we see. God wants us to chose Him on faith and without human verifiable proof other than his Word.

The man in this story, was scared straight one could say. As I said, I think it was but a dream. No more than a dream I had the other day of being in a very dangerous situation that could or never take place. I am not Joseph or Daniel so I cannot interpret dreams. If this man’s dream saved his soul than it’s a great testimony.

I am sure I wrote too much, so that someone will take something I said to task. Well, so be it.

God bless each and everyone of you and thanks for your response, and I again apologize if anything I wrote insulted anyone, I did not do so with that result in mind.


42 posted on 05/08/2014 11:55:52 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

what made me think it was a false story,,is I have trouble believing demons would speak in the king james english,,,


43 posted on 05/08/2014 12:04:17 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: OneVike

Thanks 1vike...

One point - does God actually “send” people to hell?

I think not. I think hell is simply the default for those who refuse to choose to be with God forever. He won’t force anyone into his eternal presence that doesn’t choose to do so willingly.


44 posted on 05/08/2014 12:13:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: OneVike

I aver that it in fact is empirical evidence that reveals God, but that of the heart not of the physical senses. God, by showing Himself to be the most fundamental love of existence, verifies the reliability of the rest of what He is about, including the special revelation of scripture and the general revelation of nature. Of course since we are mired in sin and hate, and do not escape it all until we leave this mortal coil, we can’t get it all at once... and not even God expects that to happen. The Cross really does cover all for those who have entered into belief.

Hell is the closest thing to pure hate as can be achieved in existence. As such it’s quite difficult for mortals to grasp. Its revulsion is not mere sensual, in fact if it were, we would miss the point. It is a fundamentally revolting place. All that hate and nowhere to go with it except where it is. There probably is such a thing as glee in hell, and it is wicked.


81 posted on 05/08/2014 10:26:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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