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1 posted on 05/18/2014 10:16:42 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Just when the new pope made the church more welcoming, the church found another way to turn more Catholics away.

The Church is not a social club. People who don't believe in Church doctrine don't belong in the Church.

2 posted on 05/18/2014 10:26:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: marshmallow

“who am i to judge” - the gift that keeps on giving.


3 posted on 05/18/2014 10:54:31 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: marshmallow
Would Pope Francis sign the new Catholic teacher contract?

Why not write him a letter and ask? Maybe he'll give you a phone call.

4 posted on 05/18/2014 10:57:11 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: marshmallow

Many, many people manage to check the boxes of that entire list and not even be Catholic. Too bad for the writer to be so upset at the ultimate meaning of the religion she thinks she professes. The church doesn’t give you “rights”: the church leads you to grace.


7 posted on 05/18/2014 11:47:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: marshmallow
How can a church based on the Gospel of love force a mother to choose between supporting her son or keeping her job? Is she supposed to pretend publicly that she opposes his very identity as a gay man?

The Diocese of Cleveland doesn't say that. It says:

"...publicly supporting...so-called homosexual or same-sex marriage or unions."

There's a big difference.

9 posted on 05/18/2014 11:50:45 AM PDT by onedoug (God derived the function we discovered as mathematics)
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To: marshmallow

Matthew 5:33”Again, you have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FALSE VOWS, BUT SHALL FULFILL YOUR VOWS TO THE LORD.’ 34”But I say to you, make no oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 35 or by the earth, for it is the footstool of His feet, or by Jerusalem, for it is THE CITY OF THE GREAT KING.…36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

Does signing this morality contract equate up to a vow/oath?


10 posted on 05/18/2014 12:07:29 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: marshmallow

The Church (the only one that doesn’t need an adjective) doesn’t drive people away...people drive themselves away.


13 posted on 05/18/2014 1:25:11 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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22 posted on 05/18/2014 3:37:57 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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Yeah...no, it doesn’t. I’m a new Catholic, but I’m also the product of an evangelical Protestant junior-high and high school, which (along with its sister primary school) expects administrators, faculty and staff to accept and live by standards which would be at least equally problematic for these folks, if not more so. Sure, you have the right to say, “No, I won’t submit myself to those standards.” In which case the school would say, “Then maybe your call to teaching doesn’t include teaching at schools like ours.” I’d back my alma mater on that, and I’ll happily back the dioceses enacting these clauses as well.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 4:39:08 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: marshmallow

I see absolutely nothing in the contract that should offend any real Catholic at all. If you cannot at least try to live up to what are moral Catholic teachings, then don’t attempt to teach our grade schoolers. While no one expects perfection, every Catholic parent should expect that the people hired to teach and guide their children for an entire school year should be of the highest moral character possible......that’s why it is a Catholic school!!!


27 posted on 05/18/2014 9:17:25 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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