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“Not only divorced from marriage, divorced from reality.” An essay on ugliness of divorce
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 8/21/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 08/22/2014 2:09:37 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 08/22/2014 2:09:37 AM PDT by markomalley
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Msgr Pope ping


2 posted on 08/22/2014 2:10:24 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

It should be harder and more expensive to get married than divorced.


3 posted on 08/22/2014 2:21:08 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: markomalley

Truth.


4 posted on 08/22/2014 2:24:26 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Veggie Todd
I see billboards advertising $300 divorces.

I've never seen ads selling $300 weddings.

5 posted on 08/22/2014 2:28:07 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Veggie Todd

I agree with you.


6 posted on 08/22/2014 2:36:13 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Veggie Todd; The Working Man
It should be harder and more expensive to get married than divorced.

Are you expecting that many more people will take to lives of long-term sexual continence, or do you think the fornication/illegitimacy culture has worked out really well for everyone?

7 posted on 08/22/2014 2:50:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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Good question, I don’t have an answer.

All I can say is that my divorce cost me nine years of separation while I worked my butt off to give my children a home and trying to keep an amicable relationship with a woman who became all, ‘Me, me, me’ to the point that I had to ‘make’ her see her children on her scheduled visitation days so she might remember what they looked like.

Eventually it was my children who told me point blank in a counseling session to just get a divorce because living in limbo was hell on them and on me too.

And frankly if it had been harder to get married I might, (Maybe, I sure hope so), have seen that there was an multi-generational pattern of a mental disorder that would have warned me off on marriage to her in the first place.

However in all honesty I might have disregarded it anyways, Hormones can blind a human being in sundry and miraculous ways.


8 posted on 08/22/2014 3:07:28 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: markomalley

“Yes, indeed, children are famous for for seeing through the hypocrisy of adults.”

Yep. When I was 8 (in 1967) I contemplated the concept of divorce against the comprehensiveness of the Vows and called ‘bullshit’.


9 posted on 08/22/2014 4:11:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: The Working Man

Its a complex problem and people look for simple solutions. IMO the crux of it is people are not living according to Gods plan. Most of us weren’t raised according to Gods word and we don’t live our lives according to the word. We try to and are successful to varying degrees.

We can’t sleep around, gamble, get drunk, and a host of other bad behaviors and not expect it to create problems in our lives.


10 posted on 08/22/2014 4:15:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: The Working Man

It’s always been the case that some people are mentally ill, and some people make poor choices of a spouse. Some spouses abandon their families, with or without divorce. Nothing is going to change that.

Msgr. Pope is saying that a society in which marriage vows are considered binding is better for children, overall, than a society with walk-away “marriage.” (By implication, it’s also better than a fornication-and-illegitimacy society.)

There is no structure that will provide easy happiness for everyone. What sensible person even imagines that there could be?


11 posted on 08/22/2014 4:19:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: driftdiver

All good points, it is complex and we, as humans, tend to look for simple, ‘easy’, answers.

On a side note, there are people who really should never get or be married. I think training in how to spot them or identify them is something that needs more work on by teenagers and adults.


12 posted on 08/22/2014 4:22:21 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Tax-chick

Msgr. Pope is saying that a society in which marriage vows are considered binding is better for children, overall, than a society with walk-away “marriage.” (By implication, it’s also better than a fornication-and-illegitimacy society.)


And I agree with this. I always have.


13 posted on 08/22/2014 4:24:30 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

I agree, too.


14 posted on 08/22/2014 4:31:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: The Working Man

Tough situation, I feel for you as I have been there as well. “Me, me, me” seems to be the new mantra for some women who think they can do it all and have it all.


15 posted on 08/22/2014 4:54:08 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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16 posted on 08/22/2014 5:19:09 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: markomalley

Bfl


17 posted on 08/22/2014 5:27:52 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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18 posted on 08/22/2014 6:09:14 AM PDT by narses
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Speaking of marriages, Pope Francis called a married couple yesterday evening. He telephoned the Foleys to comfort them after the death of their son at the hand of savage Muslims.

Fr. Z is reporting this:

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2014/08/pope-calls-family-of-american-journalist-killed-by-muslims


19 posted on 08/22/2014 6:46:31 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Veggie Todd

Sadly, shouldn’t it be the other way around?


20 posted on 08/22/2014 7:08:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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