Posted on 08/22/2014 3:41:26 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
You are very welcome.
((There is no mention of “sacred heart of Jesus” in the bible, therefore....))
Actually there is quite a discussion of the actions of the heart of God.
Jesus personifies that heart.
The only thing the Catholic Church does is highlight it and give it a title.
It is not made up from thin air.
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/activities/view.cfm?id=1098
Well actually it is. Names and titles are very important to God so for the Catholic church to make them up all the time and build religion around them is certainly the opposite of finding the Word of God sufficient.
You know I hear Protestants say all the time that Catholics do not read the Bible, but if I go to Mass everyday for three years I will hear the entire Bible.
Did you know that?
Now just because I do not take my Bible to Church with me and underline passages does not mean that my knowledge and love for the Bible is somehow deficient.
My better half joined the Church when our daughter was 3 years old. Around the same time we went to a friend's house for dinner and afterwards we played Bible Trivia.
Guess who won? The Baptists who invited us or the one cradle Catholic and the new convert?
We won hands down. Our friends were flummoxed to say the least.
How could that be when Catholics "never read the Bible"?
Please don't be rude and assume that just because I refer to my knowledge and love for Jesus in a certain term that it is somehow stupid.
Because I assure you that it isn't.
While Protestants understand this I'm not so sure many Catholics do...The heart of Jesus had one function and that was to pump blood to the body...It's just an organ...I am troubled that you guys present drawings of Jesus with a superimposed heart or a beam of light centering on the heart...The heart of Jesus is no more or less sacred than the rest of him...
The reference to the heart of Jesus is symbolic, a metaphor...
“Just too much noise and distraction in society..”
I hope it’s not detraction to say that the enemies of the Church described in Pascendi Dominici Gregis have actively suppressed many devotions.
I know of one wonderful group of cloistered nuns who were shut down and scattered to the wind by these villains. Their devotion was to Saint Faustina, for many years before her canonization.
Before this becomes one of those thousand-note atrocities we see too often, I’d just like to thank you for posting this. Read it thoroughly and carefully.
If you love the bible, how do you feel about Mormons? I have 8 kids, one married and divorced a Catholic and one is currently married to a Catholic. Neither Catholic was very interested in the bible or going to mass. Now one of my kid in very very interested in a Mormon girl. Are you aware of how Mormons handle the bible?
When I back up a few steps from doctrinal disputes I think of those wretched orc's known as Muslims and I consider how happily they would cut off my head, your head and any Mormon's head for their testimony of Jesus Christ. They wouldn't care at all about any of the details we debate.
Praise the Lord for every moment of your life that you have spent reading the bible and believing.
“Praise the Lord for every moment of your life”
Good advice. Now pay attention in the Bible where Jesus says “DO THIS IN MEMORY OF ME”. Or was he just joking?
I've heard/seen that snark a good thousand times. It destroys whatever point you are trying to make.
“Now pay attention in the Bible where Jesus says “DO THIS IN MEMORY OF ME”. Or was he just joking?”
Every non-Roman Christian group I know does the last supper “in memory of Him.” They don’t pretend to be Him.
I used to be a Baptist. The service consisted of a pastor ranting and raving about going to hell if you’re not right with the Lord. I do recall once a year he might bring in a bottle of grape juice and some saltine crackers and pretend he was “remembering” Jesus in the Last Supper.
For 2,000 years Catholics and Orthodox have participated in the Eucharist, where Jesus Christ is present. 99.9% of protestant faiths make fun of this sacrament, the exact same way they make fun of everything else that Catholics do.
This is the Litany of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. It’s one of the prayers I say each day with my morning and evening meditations. I think you’ll see it’s of a pretty comprehensive nature :-)
https://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/Litanies/sacred_heart.htm
NKP,
You post false and disparaging comments about Christians in this thread...
“I used to be a Baptist. The service consisted of a pastor ranting and raving about going to hell if you’re not right with the Lord.”
This is a data sample of one. I believe it was you who said there are 30,000 (or was it 300,000) “protestant denominations”? That renders your one data point irrelevant. Interesting, but not representative. Certainly false in the many Christian churches we’ve attended around the country.
“I do recall once a year he might bring in a bottle of grape juice and some saltine crackers and pretend he was “remembering” Jesus in the Last Supper.”
It is difficult to know is you are presenting this as a memory issue or again trying to claim all protestants follow this silly pattern. Also, I am impressed that you knew he was “pretending, according to your post.”
“For 2,000 years Catholics and Orthodox have participated in the Eucharist, where Jesus Christ is present.”
Hundreds of Christians would disagree that He is present. They do follow His words to conduct the last supper in memory of Him.
“99.9% of protestant faiths make fun of this sacrament, the exact same way they make fun of everything else that Catholics do.”
Again, with the universal knowledge in a post, which is false. Only God has universal knowledge.
There is a significant difference between disagreement and making fun of something.
The fact it claims there is an indulgence attached to the litany flies in the face of understanding what the amazing love and grace of God accomplished judicially and positionally through Christ’s sacrifice.
“Hundreds of Christians would disagree that He is present. They do follow His words to conduct the last supper in memory of Him”.
To end this silly discussion let just say there is a lot more Christians that observe the Eucharist at each and every Mass as there are non-believers. End of subject. You lose.
“Hundreds of Christians would disagree that He is present. They do follow His words to conduct the last supper in memory of Him”.
First, I intended to write “hundreds of millions.”
That said, let’s take your argument...”To end this silly discussion let just say there is a lot more Christians that observe the Eucharist at each and every Mass as there are non-believers.”
And that means what?????
To quote God, “Yet I will leave 7,000 in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal and every mouth that has not kissed him.”
Truth is never a popularity contest or numbers based.
I’m simply pointing out that not everyone who claims the name of Christ interprets His words as you do. Nothing more. No need to attack those who love Him.
Have you ever wondered why the FIRST CHRISTIANS believed in the Eucharist and the real presence of Jesus Christ? Those same Christians have been participating in the Eucharist for 2,000 years.
Actually, no. No point in wondering when you can use facts. I searched the Scriptures to see what God says. I looked for any historical references before 100AD. I looked at concurrent secular writings and art. Came up zero. For these reasons, I believe your claim is not true.
Later, as paganism crept into the church, all kinds of sycretism emerged. The "real presence" and "actual Body and Blood" are examples. The wonderful thing about God's Word is that it is authoritative. It can correct any tangent the Church or any group takes. It is the ultimate reboot for souls who go to it to see what it teaches, instead of bringing ideas to it for validation. Obviously, not every soul wishes to know what it says. As you've pointed out, many are content to outsource their mind and believe whatever is told to them. OK.
What we are left with is, "Do this in memory of me."
... hundreds of millions do that.
Your posts appear to reflect deep resentment that not every follower of Christ does it exactly like Rome.
The second largest group of Christians in the world are the Orthodox Church. Guess what? They all believe in the Real Presence at the Eucharist. You lose.
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