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A New Direction in (Catholic) Church Design
Crisis Magazine ^ | August 27, 2014 | MICHAEL TAMARA

Posted on 08/27/2014 3:30:10 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

A little less gold might befit the alter better.


101 posted on 08/29/2014 8:36:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: cloudmountain

Yep! ;)


102 posted on 08/29/2014 8:36:51 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Faith Presses On

I’m still in NY and I DON’T.


103 posted on 08/30/2014 5:38:40 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NKP_Vet

I’ve had many personal relationships now with black people that confirm what I know from the Bible - that everyone human was created in God’s image and should be treated that way. Jesus said we would in nowise enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless we become as little children, and they will not judge whole groups of people. And considering how other groupings of people, including Christians, conservatives, white people, etc., become very concerned about threats to themselves, including, for example, growing discrimination against Christians, I see no reason to discount the idea that slavery, segregation and discrimination still affect many black people. I won’t, though, as liberals do, assume that in conflicts between black and white people the white people are automatically wrong, except no doubt for them. In the Martin-Zimmerman case, as I said, the media was terribly dishonest and while Zimmerman did overstep his bounds as NW and act overzealously, there is strong evidence that Trayvon returned to the Cont’d


104 posted on 08/30/2014 9:00:03 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

scene and assaulted him. White liberals, though, turned what happened, which was something tragic and in which Zimmerman shouldn’t have pursued Trayvon in his truck as he did, so that he still bears some moral responsibilty in that sense, into a judgment that ignored and twisted facts and was made solely about race. That includes the accusations leveled at the police department about a poor investigation, which turned out to be substantially wrong. In response to white liberals, though, I would not be anything but a Christian, and since my faith, deepened through the Bible, led me to see that I should be conservative and Republican, it certainly troubles me to see so much open racism on the right. And it can’t be defended on Christian grounds. I know very well there is a lot of racism on the Democratic side, but things that are clearly racism aren’t openly tolerated, and that does mean something. When a person or people of any race do something wrong, there’s no reason to fault everyone of that race Cont’d


105 posted on 08/30/2014 9:16:59 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: NKP_Vet

and find them all guilty and accuse them of being inferior by saying something racist. That’s not Christian. We’ve all offended God that our sin is a stench and abomination before Him. And Christians shouldn’t cooperate or tolerate racism or anything similar that grieves God.


106 posted on 08/30/2014 9:23:27 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Salvation

What was your point in mentioning the KKK?

I was pointing out that Catholics in America were heavily involved in slavery.


107 posted on 08/30/2014 9:27:18 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: al_c

What area of Dallas would this be, if you don’t mind saying?

And that’s largely not the case around the country. I’m also not talking first and foremost about parishes. Not very many black Americans are Catholic. The point is how the faith and race divides seem to reinforce each other in so many places.


108 posted on 08/30/2014 9:33:31 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

Democrats are the most racist people on earth. Democrats turned dogs on blacks, democrats lynched blacks all over the country, democrats started all the Jim Crow laws. Republicans have always been the party that tried to help blacks. Now 95% of blacks spit in the face of the republican party. Republicans got them off the plantation 150 years ago. Democrats got them right back on it through social welfare giveaway programs and most seem quite happy. If not, 95% of them would not still be voting for the most racist political party in the history of American politics, the democrat party. End of story.


109 posted on 08/31/2014 5:31:25 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Faith Presses On

And my point is that it’s not the Catholic faith that divides. It’s open to everyone.


110 posted on 08/31/2014 5:47:56 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The Savior doesn’t seem to figure into what you wrote anywhere. If that’s not the case, then please correct me.


111 posted on 08/31/2014 7:52:21 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: al_c

If outside of the church walls Catholics seek to separate themselves from black people, with one reason being the differences in their beliefs, then that does involve the Catholic Church. Integration is of different types, including a church be open to all people, but also in the community people not segregating themselves from people they differ from in some way.


112 posted on 08/31/2014 7:58:46 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On
Like I said ... the Church is open to everyone. And if you want to point fingers at certain people for separating, you gotta point fingers at the black community as well. They are just as guilty.

But again ... the Church does not separate. People do that on their own.

113 posted on 08/31/2014 8:03:25 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: NYer

Lovely!! I’m glad they’re moving away from the ‘prayer barn’ architecture of the 60s thru the 80s.


114 posted on 09/01/2014 11:50:24 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ouchthatonehurt
The common denominator in all this work is The School of Architecture at Notre Dame. One of the only schools with a classically oriented program.

Aha! I bought a book for my hubby about Classical architecture, that featured this program! Can't remember the name of it, right now.

115 posted on 09/01/2014 11:55:24 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: al_c

Again, a church being open to anyone isn’t the point. Just about any church describing itself as Christian will be. And on people separating themselves, I’m sure you know that just about every group that has gone to an area of the U.S. has tended to stay together to some extent, especially initially. There are good reasons for that that I don’t think I need to get into, but the point is that it is understandable that black people coming North, for example, would tend to choose to live by each other. But that self-segregation at the beginning can turn into a problem when into the picture come things like racial fears and beliefs, such as over interracial relationships, the possibility of unrest as there was in the sixties, and prejudices such as that a race is inferior, as well as differences in faith.


116 posted on 09/02/2014 9:04:06 AM PDT by Faith Presses On
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