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Posted on 08/29/2014 2:55:40 PM PDT by NYer

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To: editor-surveyor
"as you already know"

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of making it personal.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

41 posted on 08/29/2014 9:01:37 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: editor-surveyor
The sun is a star located something like 90 million miles away from us. I do not worship an inanimate mass of burning gas -- do you?

But what, if I dare ask, makes the Eucharist a "sun cookie"? Because its usually round and the sun is also round? In line with such childishly simplistic reasoning, I certainly hope you avoid all round things entirely, and keep your belly from assuming said shape.

42 posted on 08/29/2014 9:02:06 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Salvation
Numbers 6:

[24] YHVH bless thee, and keep thee:
[25] YHVH make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
[26] YHVH lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

These were the words Yeshua spoke as he broke the bread, and poured the wine. It was a tradition that every Hebrew followed at every meal. He asked that we continue it in remembrance of him. .

43 posted on 08/29/2014 9:07:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Did you see the idol illustrated at the head of this thread?

Nuff said!
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44 posted on 08/29/2014 9:11:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Religion Moderator

No mind reading, I have posted copious quantities of the NT to her, and she has responded.


45 posted on 08/29/2014 9:13:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
People cannot read minds. Claiming to know what the other person knows or is thinking is often is the first step towards a flamewar when the subject is as sensitive as a person's deeply held religious beliefs.

For that reason, mind reading is not tolerable on the Religion Forum.

46 posted on 08/29/2014 9:18:57 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: editor-surveyor
What, the monstrance? Its as suitable a vessel to hold Jesus's own flesh as we can make. But I suppose to some its a mighty sinister container because its got artistically rendered light shafts on it, and come to think of it, it kinda' even sounds like 'monster'.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

47 posted on 08/29/2014 9:24:28 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Salvation and I have been exchanging posts since well before you were here. We need not read any minds to know history.
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48 posted on 08/29/2014 9:25:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

A suitable idol to hold the representation of the sun god.

Yeshua’s body holds his flesh quite well, where he sits, at the right hand of the Father.

No part of that body has ever entered any sun cookie idol.


49 posted on 08/29/2014 9:29:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I would love to show you the priest's Roman Missal and all the prayers that come from the Bible that are said during the Mass.

So, I will recommend a book instead. Both Old and New Testaments are quoted.

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass by Edward Sri (Book Review) [Ecumenical]

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book): Understanding What We Say and Do In The Liturgy

50 posted on 08/29/2014 9:36:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: editor-surveyor

If you don’t read that book, at least read the link. It has several Biblical references in the Mass identified.


51 posted on 08/29/2014 9:38:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: editor-surveyor
So, if I'm getting this, your objection is to the monstrance because it has light beams on it. If the host is taken OUT of the monstrance, we're a-ok, right? Or do you still have some lingering objection to circles?

I agree, no part of Jesus has entered into bread. Rather, the substance of the bread has and is transubstantiated into His flesh, in accordance with His command given at the Last Supper and throughout the gospel.

52 posted on 08/29/2014 9:40:43 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

My objection is to idolatry masquerading as worship of Yeshua.

Nothing about the mass has the slightest thing to do with my savior. Its as old as the tower of Babel.
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53 posted on 08/29/2014 9:44:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Salvation

Putting bits of Gods word into a pagan, humanistic practice fails to make it Godly.

Remember about the mixing of the threads in a garment?
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54 posted on 08/29/2014 9:46:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

And read the poem the Tapestry. The back of it looks like a jumble. But turn it over and it is beautiful.

That’s the Mass to Catholics. To non-Catholics it may seem like a jumbled mess.


55 posted on 08/29/2014 9:52:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: editor-surveyor

The mass has everything to do with Jesus.


56 posted on 08/29/2014 10:28:45 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

My pleasure-

Sun’s day is the greco roman latin day of worship..

According to Torah and the prophets and our Heavenly Father’s calendar written in the sky, there is no Sun’s day in His week.

There is no Moon Day, Tiw’s Day, Woden’s Day, Thor’s Day, Friya’s Day or Saturn’s Day either for that matter..

Those days dedicated to created things or ancients gods and goddesses are an invention of man.

So is december 25 and good friya’s day and easter sun’s day.

The greco roman Latin savior may have been born on December 25 and put to death on good friy’a day. And raised on easter Sun’s day

but Scripture tells us the Messiah of Israel was born on an appointed day (New Moon day- 1st day of His 6th month), He was put to death on an appointed day- the 14th day of His 1st month(Feast of Passover) He rose from the grave on an appointed day- the 16th day of His first month (Feast of first fruits- which is the first day of the week after the seventh day High Sabbath on the 15th day of unleavened bread-( He observed the Sabbath, even in death)

Now, Jews celebrated three different ‘Passovers’ this year depending on what calendar they use- one was in march, one in April and one in May..
Only one of those is Truth..

But for our purposes, none of those were on the greco roman latin template on good friya day, saturn’s day and sun’s day...

And that is because the calendar used in the greco roman latin world doesn’t use the sun, moon and stars together to determine appointed worship times that He gave.

It only uses the sun.. and trying to tell time with one hand is okay for sun worship. But it makes True worship of the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and His only beloved sun impossible.

One cannot find His appointed times for worship (New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts) with just the sun..

Those New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts all point to the Son.

And the world, led by the greco roman latin mother church, points everyone to the sun, and have counterfeiting holy days and sabbaths that are just counterfeits of the genuine appointed times.

Jews have abandoned the calendar they were taught and even they have their very own pope appointed sabbath day.

Today is Saturn’s day on the world’s calendar.the Jews regular sabbath day.
On Our Heavenly Father’s calendar (according to the sun, moon and stars He gave us to tell time), it is the 4th day of His 5th month. It is also the 3rd work day, a work day. Tomorrow is also a work day that Christians in majority use as their sabbath.

But His seventh day Sabbath will be on a gregorian Woden’s day for the next four weeks. Both saturn’s day and sun’s day will be work days.

The world will be working on His Sabbath thanks to pope gregory and his namesake sun only based calendar.
Sun worship has gotten high tech. But as Scripture says, there is nothing new under the sun.


57 posted on 08/30/2014 7:04:55 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: editor-surveyor
Do catholics ever read their Bible?

The Catholic bible is their catechism...Those verses you list are not included in the Catholic bible...

58 posted on 08/30/2014 8:28:52 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
But what, if I dare ask, makes the Eucharist a "sun cookie"? Because its usually round and the sun is also round? In line with such childishly simplistic reasoning, I certainly hope you avoid all round things entirely, and keep your belly from assuming said shape.

You stick a wafer in a contraption you call a monstrance...It has a depiction of the rays of the sun round about it...It is a representation of the the sun god...And you call this sun god/cracker Jesus and worship it...

People in the OT were condemned as well for worshiping the sun and this is the only thing that comes from the OT that resembles your Eucharist...

59 posted on 08/30/2014 8:33:44 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation

How would a Satanist know?


60 posted on 08/30/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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