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Joel Osteen Rebukes
8/28/13 | Sopater

Posted on 09/05/2014 7:32:39 AM PDT by GoSpiritGo

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To: Lazamataz
Current score

Laz: 3,216

Scoutmaster: 8 (and five of those came as style points from the Russian judge during the disputed 2006 games)

61 posted on 09/05/2014 11:15:46 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: wardaddy

I forgot about that, LOL!


62 posted on 09/05/2014 11:20:58 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!

Are in a contrarian mood today?

;-)


63 posted on 09/05/2014 11:53:18 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: aimhigh

“Those who reject this command against sexual immorality have rejected God”

That does not do away with Christ’s payment for us on the cross.


64 posted on 09/05/2014 11:54:59 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Lazamataz; Scoutmaster; null and void; Alaska Wolf

I figured it out.

Laz is channeling his inner “Alaska Wolf”.

He took the loss much harder than I’d expect. ..

/s


65 posted on 09/05/2014 11:56:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Scoutmaster

LOL


66 posted on 09/05/2014 11:58:08 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PapaNew

So do you agree with “Brother” Osteen here?


67 posted on 09/05/2014 12:01:17 PM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: dware

Don’t forget Hebrews 10:26:

“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins”

Yes, there are no more old covenant Leviticus sin sacrifices, as Christ paid the price for us, for those who believe. Everyone sins including willfully, and anyone denying that is a liar. And of course the less we sin the better, but God does not expect us to be perfect, rather he wants us to be humble and diligently seek him out when we are in need or struggling with sin.


68 posted on 09/05/2014 12:09:08 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ
That does not do away with Christ’s payment for us on the cross.

Christ's payment is beneficial to those who believe, not those who disbelieve and reject God.

69 posted on 09/05/2014 12:19:23 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: aimhigh

“Christ’s payment is beneficial to those who believe, not those who disbelieve and reject God.”

Yes, for believers, not unbelievers, see post # 68.


70 posted on 09/05/2014 12:28:58 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: MamaB
I do not understand why people think he is so great.

Because he is an excellent motivational speaker, as good as they come. Some people grow weary of the daily grind and get a lift by hearing that God gave us all gifts and talents we can use to make a good life.

A cheerful, uplifting message. Is it religion?

71 posted on 09/05/2014 12:35:56 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Gamecock

What’s your source and where is the valid documentation?

After straightening that out, before I answer your question, you need to answer mine.


72 posted on 09/05/2014 12:53:50 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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To: Colehill1999
It would be wrong of me to presume to know what "grieving the Holy Spirit" actually means in this context. If it were a momentary lapse, one presumes that we're granted forgiveness just as soon as we humbly ask for it.

In suicide, however, a Believer not only ends his own mortal (physical) life but he also kills that part of the Holy Spirit that resided inside that Believer, which may be why it is unpardonable. And yet I have felt depression to the point of wanting death and find it hard to condemn others who succumb to that ultimate temptation.

God ministers to us through our suffering and suffering not only allows us to minister to others but it also gives us "street cred" when we tell others they can overcome their circumstances with prayer and faith. God loves "hopeless causes" because then He gets to flex His muscles and demonstrate His amazing powers. He took the Apostle Paul from the most virulent of Christian haters and made Him the leader of His gospel ministry - because He can.

If committing suicide isn't the "unpardonable sin", then the only other thing I think it could be is to publicly renounce your faith and salvation.

If it isn't one of those two things, I believe a lot of us are in heap big trouble.

73 posted on 09/05/2014 10:16:00 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: GoSpiritGo

How can any minister/preacher/priest not preach “sin” from the “pulpit”? I’m not saying it has to be SIN! SIN! SIN! all the time but why did Jesus bring up the woman at the well’s five marriages and the man she was living with if her sexual sins weren’t an obstacle between her and God?
When I’ve come across Joel on TV, I’ve thought that maybe he does have a gift for encouragement. But we need to be encouraged to try by Grace to live the FULL Truth and implore God’s Mercy when we fall short. I opened up Joel’s most recent daily devotional on here and it said we have to be prepared for criticism if we’re going to be successful business people and the like. But what if we can’t be a worldly success anymore because the world is persecuting us for holding to our beliefs? I just think Joel is largely preaching the crossless christianity of the prosperity gospel which tickles the ears of the spiritual, not religious gang which doesn’t want any demands placed on them. This isn’t the true Gospel. The true Gospel begins with “Repent and reform your lives, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand (Mark 1:14,15).”

“Say no to spiritual worldliness. If you don’t you’re acting more like a businessman or an entrepreneur than a man or woman of the Gospel. ... When we journey without the Cross, when we build without the Cross, when we profess Christ without the Cross, we are not disciples of The Lord, we are worldly. ...The spirit of the world, the worldly spirit, spiritual worldliness ... leads to self-sufficiency, to living by the spirit of the world rather than by the spirit of Jesus.” -Pope Francis


74 posted on 09/06/2014 1:08:14 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: bigbob
Just another religious crackpot

Who trots out a cutie-pie wife to prove something. We've seen this act before.

75 posted on 09/06/2014 1:24:41 AM PDT by Octar
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To: GoSpiritGo

Too bad there’s already a Book of Joel; or it sounds likes this one would write his own.


76 posted on 09/06/2014 4:08:39 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: OrangeHoof

I always understood “grieving the Holy Spirit” to mean the rejection of Jesus, the only “unpardonable sin.” Suicide would be a result of rejection of Jesus.


77 posted on 09/06/2014 4:12:25 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: ScottfromNJ
On the other hand, if they continue in their sinful behavior, they will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Of course, they will continue to sin, as do we all, and no sin is worse than any other. I meant if they truly repent (turn away from) of the sin of practicing homosexuality, they can be forgiven and the God that I know will welcome them into His presence. He loved the world so much that he gave us His Son to die in our place. He also knows our hearts and is the only one in the position to decide where any of ua will spend eternity.

78 posted on 09/06/2014 8:28:21 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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