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KJB: The Book That Changed the World
Hulu.com ^ | April 5, 2011 | Lions Gate

Posted on 09/08/2014 7:13:24 PM PDT by daniel1212

Movie :
KJB: The Book That Changed the World

Of all places, Hulu has this well done, interesting and edifying documentary (with ads) with actor John Rhys-Davies.

Describes King James 1 upbringing and and political events, including the Gunpowder Plot and shows historical background and aspects which led to this translation.

1:33 long. Worth watching. Has ads (choose priceline ones)


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 1611; bible; diaglott; homosexual; kingjames; kingjamesbible; kjv; sodomite
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To: NKP_Vet
Without the Vulgate the King James Version of the Bible would not exist.

True, outside of a miracle, likewise without the Jews the church would not exist, and the Gentiles and thus the "one new man" church would not have a true vine to be grafted into.

As for the debt,

like Tyndale's translation and the Geneva Bible, the Authorized Version was translated primarily from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts, although with secondary reference both to the Latin Vulgate, and to more recent scholarly Latin versions; two books of the Apocrypha were translated from a Latin source. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Translation)

Examination of the 1611 King James Bible clearly that its translators were influenced much more by the Geneva Bible, than by any other source. - http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history

Yet the KJV is quite close to the Douay–Rheims Bible, with some significant exceptions such as penance for repentance. /

21 posted on 09/08/2014 9:07:06 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
KJB: The Book That Changed the World,,

Thanks I'll watch it...

22 posted on 09/08/2014 9:07:14 PM PDT by virgil283 (Dehrate digito)
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To: Alamo-Girl
That cannot be true since the Vulgate is a translation to Latin around 400 AD. The Torah and Tanakh predate that by more than a thousand years. And the Septuagint, the Greek translation dates to a few hundred years BC.

See post 21

23 posted on 09/08/2014 9:08:17 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: terycarl

No book, has ever bought or lost a soul.


24 posted on 09/08/2014 9:12:21 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Religion Moderator
Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie, it attributes motive, the intent to deceive. It is a form of "making it personal." Words such as false, wrong, error do not attribute motive.

OK. Though I was not saying it was intentional, but that the (often seen) statement was false, wrong, erroneous, a falsehood = a lie. But rules are rules.

25 posted on 09/08/2014 9:13:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; NKP_Vet
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear daniel1212!

My reaction was to his claim that "All Bibles came from the Vulgate."

The term "Bible" means Jewish Scriptures (Torah, Prophets and Writings) as well as Christian Scriptures (Old and New Testaments.) The Vulgate is a 400 AD translation to Latin, all of the Scriptures both Jewish and Christian existed before they were translated.

26 posted on 09/08/2014 9:31:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MamaB

“They knew their teachings were not right but they did not want everyone to know that.”

What’s sad is that the apostle Paul, who had real authority from God, complimented people who went to the Scriptures to check HIM out! Quite a difference, eh?


27 posted on 09/08/2014 9:37:00 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: daniel1212; NKP_Vet

“Yet the KJV is quite close to the Douay–Rheims Bible, with some significant exceptions such as penance for repentance.”

It is hardly surprising that the current Douay–Rheims Bible is close to the KJV, since the original Douay–Rheims Bible was one almost no one wanted to ever use.

“The New Testament was reprinted in 1600, 1621 and 1633. The Old Testament volumes were reprinted in 1635 but neither thereafter for another hundred years...Much of the text of the 1582/1610 bible employed a densely latinate vocabulary, to the extent of being in places unreadable. Consequently this translation was replaced by a revision undertaken by bishop Richard Challoner; the New Testament in three editions 1749, 1750, and 1752; the Old Testament (minus the Vulgate apocrypha), in 1750. Although retaining the title Douay–Rheims Bible, the Challoner revision was a new version, tending to take as its base text the King James Bible...”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douay%E2%80%93Rheims_Bible

Since 1750, the Douay–Rheims Bible has largely been the KJV with Catholic theology inserted so the ‘faithful’ would not be ‘deceived’ into ‘error’ by reading what the Word of God actually says.


28 posted on 09/08/2014 9:50:33 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: daniel1212

LOL! As if the King James was the one and only Bible.

Good grief...you got the Bible from the Catholics.

Why don’t people accept that fact?


29 posted on 09/08/2014 9:52:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: terycarl

**the KJV has cost the loss of more souls than any other book in history.**

I agree, because it isn’t the entire Bible.


30 posted on 09/08/2014 9:53:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

They only put it together. They did not write it. God is the author.


31 posted on 09/08/2014 9:56:18 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB

God inspired the authors through the Holy Spirit.

There really was a Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Peter, Paul, James, Titus, Timothy, etc.


32 posted on 09/08/2014 10:08:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

No joke. Everyone knows that or they should.


33 posted on 09/08/2014 10:09:43 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: terycarl
the KJV has cost the loss of more souls than any other book in history.

Don't kid yourself...The Douay Rheims could just have well have been used for the Reformation and it wouldn't have slowed it down a bit...

34 posted on 09/08/2014 10:09:51 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: daniel1212

The point of all of that is to state that locals could read in the vernacular IF the Bishop thought they could handle it.

Pretty white of them.


35 posted on 09/08/2014 10:12:49 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: MamaB

** God is the author.**

Then why did you write this if all those people were real people and wrote Letters, Gospels, Books of the Bible

Can you make up your mind?


36 posted on 09/08/2014 10:13:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MamaB
You should thank God that every person who wants God’s Word is able to.

It's not that they hate the King James Bible...They hate having the bible in a language where people can read it...They don't want us reading it...Most Catholics don't even own a bible...That's how insignificant it is to them...

37 posted on 09/08/2014 10:14:11 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Most Catholics don't even own a bible..

What?... oh come on... that can't be true... can it?

38 posted on 09/08/2014 10:14:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MamaB

Well, God can turn a phrase as well as an Enlishman.


39 posted on 09/08/2014 10:15:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: NKP_Vet
The King James did not come from the Latin Vulgate. However, the Challoner Douay-Rheims is borrowed almost entirely from the King James. I've always been amused at the thought of a bunch of late arriving immigrants speaking in thees and thous in church, as if any Catholic bible was ever permitted in English prior to the KJV. Men died trying to bring this book to us. It's a masterpiece of the English language. You use figures of speech nearly every day that come from the KJV. So, put down the pom-pons and dispense with the "go team" mentality when it comes to this book. Respect it as great English literature if your religious biases don't allow you to respect it as the most influential translation of the Word Of God to have ever existed.
40 posted on 09/08/2014 10:21:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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