[ravenwolf]

Please accept this as a logical and biblical explanation.

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It is logical and my only question, is the wrath we have today as a nation Gods wrath or is it brought on by our own stupid way of doing things?

Or in our personal lives it seems that the choices we made before we came to the knowledge of God and even the choices we make after we come to the knowledge of God affect the rest of our lives.

I heard some one remark that if we think we are living in the time of gods wrath then we better not be here when Gods wrath really starts being poured out.

[CynicalBear]

>>I heard some one remark that if we think we are living in the time of gods wrath then we better not be here when Gods wrath really starts being poured out.<<

This ain't nothing compared to what's coming.

[HarleyD]

It is logical and my only question, is the wrath we have today as a nation Gods wrath or is it brought on by our own stupid way of doing things?

This is an interesting point. It isn't our "stupid way of doing things". Rather it is our rebellious nature to the things of God. Everyone does what is right in their own eyes. Thus you have people who find no problem in encouraging compassion for transgenders, yet those same people will denounce Christians as being intolerant bigots.