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Which Versus Did the NIV Delete
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Posted on 10/25/2014 9:29:35 PM PDT by do the dhue

Which Bible verses did the NIV delete?

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the NIV

The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the NIV--whether in the text or footnotes.. here is but an example but there is over 40 IN ALL!!! The NIV also is a collaberator with the JWB or Jehovah's Witness "Bible". Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes

Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

Matthew 21:44 -- removed in the footnotes

Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- There is a line separating the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text. Right under the line it says: [The two most reliable early manuscripts do not have Mark 16:9-20] (NIV, 1978 ed.) The Jehovah's Witness "Bible" also places the last 12 verses of Mark as an appendix of sorts.

Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Luke 22:44 -- removed in the footnotes

Luke 22:43 -- removed in the footnotes

Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

John 7:53-8:11 -- removed in the footnotes

Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. It's deletion makes one think that people can be baptized and saved without believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Sounds Catholic. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

Acts 24:7 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"

Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."

Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing? KJV: "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. In the NIV it says, "For there are three that testify:" Compare the NIV reading with the following Jehovah's Witness reading-- "For there are three witness bearers," What are you NIV readers missing? What does the real Bible say? KJV: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

This is one of the GREATEST verses testifying of the trinity. That is why the Jehovah's Witnesses leave it out. They do not believe in the trinity and they do not believe that Jesus is God. Why does the NIV leave it out...? Whole books have been written on the manuscript evidence that supports inclusion of this verse in the Bible. Reader, do you believe in the triunity of God? If so, then this deletion should offend you. People are playing around with the Bible and it ain't funny.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
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Does anybody know why these versus were deleted from the NIV?
1 posted on 10/25/2014 9:29:35 PM PDT by do the dhue
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To: do the dhue

Yes


2 posted on 10/25/2014 9:33:43 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: do the dhue; Morgana; metmom; Charles Henrickson

In this corner we have the reigning champion KJV!

and in this corner we have the challenger NIV...

Mixed Manuscript Arts! MMA

No holds barred...

Anyone know why NIV omitted (polite phrase) these verses?


3 posted on 10/25/2014 9:36:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: imardmd1

care to share?


4 posted on 10/25/2014 9:36:55 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: imardmd1

You’re Bad! ; )


5 posted on 10/25/2014 9:37:45 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: GeronL

Thanks for the help!


6 posted on 10/25/2014 9:37:49 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue

bump


7 posted on 10/25/2014 9:38:01 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: do the dhue

How about being a tad more literate... it’s hard to have a meaningful conversation about bible renditions with someone who won’t even try to be literate.

For example a check to BibleGateway shows that Luke 22:44 is still in footnotes — certainly not “removed from footnotes,” or did you mean to say it was “removed to the footnotes”?

If you aren’t going to be accurate in the language you use, why should we expect you care about the pinpoint accuracy of the bible text either? It would be wasted on you.

There are reasonable answers to virtually all such questions. There is no single extant authoritative manuscript of the New Testament. However, “lower criticism” which is not based on interpretation but based on textual evidence, narrows down the acceptable possibilities, and none affect any major church doctrine or come within even a light year of affecting salvational doctrine.

If your salvation depends on getting every single letter right... bub you are not saved! Your salvation should depend on Christ.


8 posted on 10/25/2014 9:38:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: do the dhue

IT would seem that those verses contain reference to liberals or leftists and things they should not do.

Had to go.


9 posted on 10/25/2014 9:40:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: do the dhue

Can’t help you here. I’m still trying to find out why the KJV got John 3:3 wrong.


10 posted on 10/25/2014 9:41:35 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: do the dhue

I recommend the New American Standard Version. It is one of the most literal translations.


11 posted on 10/25/2014 9:41:35 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I copied the entire page that I read on the link provided. I am just wondering if anybody is aware of older manuscripts maybe not having all versus, therefore they have been omitted.

My salvation completely relies upon what my Savior did for me on the Cross.

No need to be rude my brother.


12 posted on 10/25/2014 9:43:03 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...

It was not because they were called versus, but it has to do with the manuscript family, and the premise that older extant MSS must be considered more accurate than earlier ones which the KJV and some others were translated from, even though the later ones now extant may be copies of ever earlier mss. And i have read that the extant earlier ones have the greatest discrepancies btwn them.

But to take the Truth to heart is more important.


13 posted on 10/25/2014 9:43:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: RushingWater

I use a Comparative Study Bible. It has KJV, NASB, Amplified, and NIV. They are all good, it’s just that the NIV has total versus missing at times.


14 posted on 10/25/2014 9:44:43 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue

Why do you ask?


15 posted on 10/25/2014 9:45:12 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And I still love you as my brother and as instructed.


16 posted on 10/25/2014 9:45:52 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: imardmd1

You don’t have to share, if you don’t want to.

Thanks!


17 posted on 10/25/2014 9:47:00 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: daniel1212

Thank you for your response.


18 posted on 10/25/2014 9:48:31 PM PDT by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: do the dhue
Does anybody know why these versus were deleted from the NIV?

Another way to phrase the question, but with different assumptions: Does anyone know why the KJV added these verses to the original text?

19 posted on 10/25/2014 9:49:15 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: RushingWater

NASB is generally pretty good and recent refinements have improved the rendition and removed some of the dustiness. It still tends to be a bit wooden in places, but that is an unavoidable artifact of attempting to render Greek or Hebrew in English. It has the same manuscript issues as the NIV, both being based on eclectic texts.

For wordier paraphrases, the Amplified Bible is very good. But lest we get lost in the letters here, Scripture in general is pretty robust across languages and variant renderings. That is what you would expect from a plan driven by God and not by men.


20 posted on 10/25/2014 9:49:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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