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What Catholics believe: 10 truths about purgatory (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic S F ^ | October 30, 2013 | Valerie Schmalz

Posted on 10/30/2014 2:54:21 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Rashputin

Thanks for this explanation, and citation. As you, not every Christian tradition refers to Maccabees. It is not familiar to me.


41 posted on 10/30/2014 8:31:23 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks. I will check it out. I have read some CS Lewis, but not the one you mentioned.


42 posted on 10/30/2014 8:58:33 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Elsiejay
Hmmm.

Any "Christian tradition" that isn't Catholic shouldn't really be asking about Purgatory here given that this is a Catholic Caucus thread.

43 posted on 10/30/2014 10:26:35 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: NYer; All

I once heard whispering sounds of others when I was alone in my room after prayers. It kept going on and on. So I covered the blood of Christ over it in my words thinking it was a demoniac origin.
Well it kept happening. So I asked the Lord in pray for help. My computer was already running but I never touched the keyboard. Out of nowhere by human means a web page on purgatory came up with St Gertrude”s prayer of purgatory. I prayed the exact words. The whispering stopped. it just was miracle. I truly believe there is a purgatory. Amen!!!


44 posted on 10/30/2014 11:00:37 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

The Prayer of St. Gertrude, below, is one of the most famous of the prayers for souls in purgatory. St. Gertrude the Great (pictured at left) was a Benedictine nun and mystic who lived in the 13th century. According to tradition, our Lord promised her that 1000 souls would be released from purgatory each time it is said devoutly.

“Eternal Father, I offer Thee the Most Precious Blood of Thy Divine Son, Jesus, in union with the masses said throughout the world today, for all the holy souls in purgatory, for sinners everywhere, for sinners in the universal church, those in my own home and within my family. Amen. “


45 posted on 10/30/2014 11:03:02 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

http://www.ourcatholicprayers.com/prayers-for-souls-in-purgatory.html


46 posted on 10/30/2014 11:03:37 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: defconw
Wasn’t it Fr. Groeshel who said Purgatory is a suburb of heaven or hell depending on how you look at it?

Years ago I had the pleasure of attending Seminary and took a class on the "Divine comedy" taught by a native Italian priest. If you get a chance read it, and pay attention to the "Purgatorio." The images of the souls longing for heaven are amazing.

48 posted on 10/31/2014 2:58:08 AM PDT by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: taxcontrol

Yet not once in the New Testament is Purgatory mentioned. Jesus while on the cross tells the thief that he will be in in paradise that very day. No making atonement or
“paying for” the sins of his life. Luke 23:43


The first plenary indulgence.


49 posted on 10/31/2014 3:00:20 AM PDT by rwa265 (Love one another as I have loved you, says the Lord.)
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To: NYer
I explain it to children like this:

Me: "You're welcome in our home anytime, right? This is always your home, here with Daddy and Mommy?

The kids: "Yes".

Me: "If you have muddy feet, what do you do before you come inside? You know to do this, even though you are always welcome..."

The kids: "Wipe them off".

Me: Of course! We want to come in and be together, but we take a moment to be clean to show respect for our home and for Mommy.

"The kids: Yep."

"Purgatory is wiping your feet off before you enter heaven. Getting rid of every small thing that isn't perfect before we enter God's home for us.

50 posted on 10/31/2014 3:10:13 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: NYer
The soul is already saved. Purgatory is a place to pay off debts for sins that were forgiven but for which sufficient penance had not been done on earth.

The Blood of Jesus isn't enough? How does a spirit-in-waiting do its penance?

51 posted on 10/31/2014 3:22:04 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Prince of Space

I don’t know why your post touched me so but it brought a tear to my eyes. Thank you for it.


52 posted on 10/31/2014 3:42:14 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: taxcontrol

Paradise is not Heaven. The word in Greek is completely different.


53 posted on 10/31/2014 4:22:18 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: taxcontrol; Salvation
Rather than trying to deflect the argument, try responding directly to the stated position. Jesus said that the thief would be in paradise and that he would be there today with Jesus.

Luke 23:43 KJV- And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

According to the Catholic teaching, this is not possible. Since these two teachings are mutually exclusive, one or the other must be true. That makes the other teaching false.

It is good to cite scripture ... all of it, not just one extract. What happens before that statement? The good thief acknowledges (confesses) his sins Luke 23:41. As he hung there, he repented and asked Jesus to remember him in His kingdom. His purgatory was right there on Calvary.

54 posted on 10/31/2014 4:34:24 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: verga

Thank You. I have heard of that, but I never have read it. When i was a kid it was to scary. Now in middle age it’s something to learn to embrace.


55 posted on 10/31/2014 4:55:19 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: rwa265

AWESOME!


56 posted on 10/31/2014 4:55:50 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Prince of Space

I’ll also be praying for you provided I outlive you. I know of a large group in Indiana that prays the Rosary exclusively for the souls in Purgatory every Friday.


57 posted on 10/31/2014 5:01:32 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: johngrace

Chills.


58 posted on 10/31/2014 5:02:29 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: RedHeeler

Caucus thread, plus that was not very nice.


59 posted on 10/31/2014 5:04:15 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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