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Catholicism, evolution and young earth creationism
Catholic Culture ^ | November 10, 2014 | Thomas Van

Posted on 11/11/2014 6:20:08 AM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: CynicalBear

“To those it’s not going to matter what “terminology” we use. They are going to find fault no matter what we do.”

I’m not concerned with them, I’m concerned with the fence-sitting spectators. If we let ourselves walk into traps, we look foolish and the undecided are more likely to be swayed by the arguments of such people.


61 posted on 11/12/2014 2:15:32 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
>>If we let ourselves walk into traps, we look foolish<<

What?? Staying with God's word from the original Hebrew and Greek will NEVER cause us to look foolish to those whose eyes are opened by God. Only to those who are left blind to His truth.

>>the undecided are more likely to be swayed by the arguments of such people.<<

It's not our responsibility. Our responsibility is to spread the true words of God and leave it to the Holy Spirit to enlighten those who God has called to be His.

62 posted on 11/12/2014 2:40:29 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

“What?? Staying with God’s word from the original Hebrew and Greek will NEVER cause us to look foolish to those whose eyes are opened by God. Only to those who are left blind to His truth.”

No, that isn’t what I have been saying. What I have been saying is when someone says “I interpret the Bible literally”, they fall into their trap, as they have defined this imaginary “literal interpretation” of the Bible and then spread the myth that we use this interpretation (inconsistently at that).

“It’s not our responsibility. Our responsibility is to spread the true words of God and leave it to the Holy Spirit to enlighten those who God has called to be His.”

Well, I guess we’ll have to disagree there. Spreading the Gospel is not the only thing that Christians are called to do, even if it is the most important:

“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.” 1 Peter 3:15-16

“We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.” 2 Cor. 10:5

“He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.” Titus 1:9


63 posted on 11/12/2014 3:43:03 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Zionist Conspirator
What is the matter with you people today? Evidently you are unaware of Catholics and others who insist on the totally unscientific "virgin birth" while having the brazen 'ovnayim to reject creationism because it's "unscientific."

So sorry but virgin birth occurs in nature all the time. If you want to be scientifically ignorant, go for it - it makes you look like even more of a lunatic. I think God is a bit smarter than the easily duped. Not sure why you included the scare quotes.

64 posted on 11/16/2014 4:09:21 PM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw; Alex Murphy
So sorry but virgin birth occurs in nature all the time. If you want to be scientifically ignorant, go for it - it makes you look like even more of a lunatic. I think God is a bit smarter than the easily duped. Not sure why you included the scare quotes.

Prior to modern science, the conception of a human child by a human mother without the participation of a human male was absolutely impossible. And even with the male not present, the male's semen is still necessary (unless one is cloning or something). Therefore scientifically, the "virgin birth" couldn't have happened without us having to throw out everything we know about gynecology and pediatrics.

So . . . what was the line about Genesis 1-11 again?

65 posted on 11/16/2014 4:36:39 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Zionist Conspirator

What about it and do you really need help from that idiot? And no, not prior to modern science. I think God is a lot smarter that you give Him credit for.


66 posted on 11/16/2014 10:01:26 PM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw; Zionist Conspirator
What about it and do you really need help from that idiot? And no, not prior to modern science. I think God is a lot smarter that you give Him credit for

How can God be smarter than ZC gives him credit for, yet still be an idiot?

67 posted on 11/17/2014 4:56:07 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
How can God be smarter than ZC gives him credit for, yet still be an idiot?

Don't be coy about your prime talent. Everyone has a forte. Your talent is being a @sshole. Embrace it.

68 posted on 11/17/2014 5:26:46 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Hacksaw
What about it and do you really need help from that idiot? And no, not prior to modern science. I think God is a lot smarter that you give Him credit for

How can God be smarter than ZC gives him credit for, yet still be an idiot?

Apparently Hacksaw is an evolutionist because it justified Southern slavery.

69 posted on 11/17/2014 6:17:49 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Zionist Conspirator

??? That is a strange comment. No need to rip on American Southerners. But doesn’t the Talmud justify slavery?


70 posted on 11/17/2014 6:39:26 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw; Zionist Conspirator
No need to rip on American Southerners. But doesn’t the Talmud justify slavery?

Does the Catholic Magisterium?

Abp. Dolan: American Catholic Leadership against Abortion Redeems Laxity against Slavery
Black History: The Slave Coast
Statue of first Catholic Supreme Court justice may go [Chief Justice Taney/"Dred Scott" decision]
The Jesuits’ Slaves

71 posted on 11/17/2014 6:49:25 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
If the "virgin birth" is true, then the sciences of gynecology and pediatrics will have to be abandoned.

I'm not so sure that is true since there are many documented miracles that don't call into question various fields of medicine. For example there are documented cases of blindness being cured and cancers being cured but these don't cast doubt on the fields of ophthalmology or oncology.

72 posted on 11/17/2014 7:14:53 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Alex Murphy

Argument by link again.


73 posted on 11/17/2014 11:16:04 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw
Argument by link again.

It's called "backing up an argument". You might want to try it some time.

74 posted on 11/17/2014 11:22:43 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
It's called "backing up an argument". You might want to try it some time.

Nope, it's called "debate the link".

75 posted on 11/17/2014 11:24:54 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw; Zionist Conspirator
Nope, it's called "debate the link".

When debating certain Catholics, it's better known as "debate the missing link".

76 posted on 11/17/2014 11:29:48 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
When debating certain Catholics, it's better known as "debate the missing link".

I thought you boys didn't accept evolution but I have to admit that was funny. Happy Thanksgiving.

77 posted on 11/27/2014 10:15:20 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: ebb tide

Ping for your interest.


78 posted on 11/27/2014 11:21:45 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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