Posted on 12/06/2014 3:04:38 PM PST by Salvation
I see what you mean, now.
But I only just recently figured out how to make a link to lead to some time part-way through.
Thanks for that.
“I’m know Catholics refrain from staying with scripture for their doctrines and beliefs and consider other “communications” to be equal but they are not.”
Just one more thing you “know” that is false.
It’s funny how willing you are to accept the words of men, if they contradict Scripture and the Church.
“Personal experiences arre great. Every pagan religion can claim them. Whirling dervishes whirl for a reason.”
soph-ist-ry
[sof-uh-stree]
noun, plural sophistries.
1. a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.
And, oh, wait a minute: are you saying that yours is the one true religion precisely because you do not admit that God speaks to you?
Oh, now that’s rich.
If I wanted to pull the wool over your eyes, that would be no great feat.
Communicating the truth, now, that is one of the labors of Hercules.
By that I mean that ““I’m know Catholics refrain from staying with scripture for their doctrines and beliefs and consider other “communications” to be equal” is false, as you have been told many times.
It is, of course, false that they are equal, and this is what the Church teaches.
You’re welcome.
Oh you are now into mind reading and telling me what I know? I thought that was forbidden here.
Ah dsc, first I wish you a very Merry Christmas. May it be a time of great spiritual blessing and communion for you.
As to your post...
I claim only that experience is not the basis of doctrine, or truth is reduced to common experience.
I do not dispute your right to believe whatever you wish. Nor my own. I just point out that for one who claims the name of Christ, it is an insufficient basis.
At every turn, the Savior referred to what was “written”.
God inspired men to write His message over millennia. Men and women had experiences during that time, but they while many were significant, they did not form the doctrines of belief. Nor did the Savior rely upon them. Even during His deepest temptation by Satan, He did not rely on a single experience.
Christ went back to the unchangeable Word of God each time, responding only “it is written.” In this test of the seed of the woman versus the serpent, only the Word of God prevailed as the Word of God wielded it.
Best.
It IS funny; isn't it!
These are CATHOLIC 'men' quoted: the CHURCH fathers.
Why do YOU not accept their words?
Are you your own pope?
God inspired men to write His message over millennia.
Isn't it FUNNY how that worked out?
So far you’re a wool vendor, and the truth is back-ordered decades.
>> “Are you your own pope?” <<
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Could he be planning to run for pope?
Dr. Steve did once!
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Dr. Steve did once!
Joseph Smith planned to run for President.
Would he have been a better one than Obama?
...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’
Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.
Carthage, IL
JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?
JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?
JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?
JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!
JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.
JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!
JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.
JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.
JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?
JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)
JESUS: That's it.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: Nah - it was right.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.
JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.
JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!
JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?
JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....
JESUS: What did you say?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.
JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.
JESUS: No...
JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?
JESUS: Nope.
JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!
JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: No; it wasn't.
JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?
JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?
JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.
JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.
JOSEPH SMITH: But....
Oh you are now into mind reading and telling me what I know?”
If you are referring to message 422, I responded to your statement, “I’m know Catholics refrain from staying with scripture for their doctrines and beliefs and consider other “communications” to be equal but they are not.”
I assume you meant to write “I know Catholics refrain from staying with scripture for their doctrines and beliefs and consider other “communications” to be equal but they are not.”
I don’t think any “mind-reading” is involved there. Just reading what you wrote.
If you are referring to message 426, a quick look reveals that I did not tell you what you know, but what you have been told many times.
I would say it is something you should know by now, but you continue to insist upon the opposite. Now, if I were to speculate on your motives for that, I would likely be reprimanded, despite the fact that motives are often made clear by a person’s remarks.
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