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‘Epoch-Making Turning Point’ from Conflict to Communion: LWF, Vatican Announce Common Liturgical..
The Lutheran World Federation ^ | 12/19/14

Posted on 12/22/2014 6:17:46 AM PST by marshmallow

(LWI) – Rev. Martin Junge, General Secretary of The Lutheran World Federation (LWF) says relations between the Lutheran and Catholic churches have reached an epoch-making turning-point.

Speaking during a panel discussion, held 18 December, in the Lutheran church in Rome, Junge emphasized that the relationship between Lutherans and Catholics was being transformed “from conflict to communion.” Precisely in a world “in which religion and faith are regularly portrayed and perceived as trouble makers,” he said it was a phenomenal testimony that the Lutheran and Roman Catholic churches continued to move “towards a profound communion that frees us to serve God and the world.”

Alongside Junge on the panel were, the president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU) Kurt Cardinal Koch, the Catholic representative of the United Evangelical Lutheran Church of Germany Bishop Karl-Hinrich Manzke, and the chairperson of the Ecumenism Commission of the German Episcopal Conference Bishop Gerhard Feige.

Junge and Koch took the opportunity to announce plans for a common liturgical guide in connection with the 500th anniversary of the Reformation in 2017, of which publication is scheduled for 2015. Looking towards 2017, the Lutheran - Roman Catholic material is intended to enable churches all over the world to review the 500 years of Reformation. The guide will follow on from the dialogue document From Conflict to Communion published by both partners in 2013, and transpose it into liturgical acts. The material will reflect the structure of this document with its triple form of penitence for the wounds mutually inflicted; joy at the insights and dimensions of the Reformation; and hope for unity.

The panel also discussed the question of what exactly was to be commemorated in 2017. “Not church division, nor the 500th anniversary of a church and certainly not any heroic actions,” Feige was.......

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To: ebb tide
Luther tossed what Scripture didn't agree with him.

Revisionist history...and frankly, I need a legitimate voice of Catholicism, not a malcontent. More unity baby.

61 posted on 12/22/2014 5:39:18 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
Luther's heresies

Didn't have any, indulgences should be free. I'm sorry though I need a Catholic voice that is genuinely Catholic, not a Pope-hater.

62 posted on 12/22/2014 5:41:16 PM PST by xone
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To: NKP_Vet
“Like Grant, Luther was a drunkard”. And a terrible anti-semite.

Oh he wrote a terrible tract on the Jews, he even railed against them in public. But Luther had no secular power. But an org contemporary with Luther did. Let's see how they acted towards the Jews: Timeline

Even better, the saint you quote on your home page expelled the Jews from the Papal states after Luther was dead. Dang Luther was powerful. St Pius V a notorious anti-semite, expeller of Jews. Great saint Catholics! Had the Germans won WWII, could the world have expected Saint Adolf?

63 posted on 12/22/2014 6:19:33 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
Like Grant, Luther was a drunkard.

Says Catholic agitprop, still both great.

64 posted on 12/22/2014 6:20:59 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
How profound! Who taught you that?

The Holy Spirit has taught that to believers since there was scripture to interpret. Probably why a rebellious Catholic is unfamiliar.

65 posted on 12/22/2014 6:23:06 PM PST by xone
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To: xone
More unity baby.

Unity with heretics? No way.

66 posted on 12/22/2014 6:24:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: marshmallow
Including the "lib Lutherans".

The lib lutherans claim the doctrine, but manifestly don't follow it. Not that tough.

67 posted on 12/22/2014 6:25:06 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
Unity with heretics? No way.

You'll have no say in the decision, the Catholic infallibles, pope or magisterium will be making that call for you and the OTC.

68 posted on 12/22/2014 6:28:09 PM PST by xone
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To: xone
Luther, the apostate Catholic, “We must remove the Decalogue out of sight and heart” (De Wette, IV, 188), and again, “If Moses should attempt to intimidate you with his stupid Ten Commandments, tell him right out: ‘Chase yourselves to the Jews’ (Works, Wittenberg, ed. V 1573).”[13]

Fifth Centenary of the Protestant Revolt

69 posted on 12/22/2014 6:33:47 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone

It will never happen.The Gates of Hell will not prevail.


70 posted on 12/22/2014 6:35:30 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone

Then why does your “scripture” keep interpreting itself in opposite ways?

Take for instance the indissolubility of the Sacrament of Marriage?


71 posted on 12/22/2014 6:38:48 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I see cherry picking isn’t confined to scripture for Catholics.


72 posted on 12/22/2014 6:38:48 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

No scripture that time. It’s confined to quoting Luther’s own words.

What say you? Do you believe in and obey the Ten Commandments?


73 posted on 12/22/2014 6:41:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
It will never happen.

It's coming. The worst part for Catholics will be that the org will promote it and laity will eat it. Gates of Hell not prevailing pertains to Christ's church. That appellation passed from the Catholics centuries ago when you traded for secular power.

74 posted on 12/22/2014 6:42:01 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide

No it wasn’t scripture, it was cherry picked out of context. Print the context.


75 posted on 12/22/2014 6:43:19 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
Take for instance the indissolubility of the Sacrament of Marriage?

Catholics made it a sacrament. As for the desirablity of the indissolubility of marriage, you will get no argument from me. Your Pope and the upcoming synod OTOH.

76 posted on 12/22/2014 6:45:20 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

The Apocolypse will come before True Church fully “communes” with Luther’s sect.


77 posted on 12/22/2014 6:46:30 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone; ebb tide
As for the desirablity of the indissolubility of marriage, you will get no argument from me.

Or my church.

78 posted on 12/22/2014 6:46:47 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide
The Apocolypse will come before True Church fully “communes” with Luther’s sect.

Who said anything about communing with Luther's sect? You're gonna commune with the lib rejects from Luther's sect. First the Joint Declaration on Justification and and now what else with the libs? Francis will fill you in, not to worry.

79 posted on 12/22/2014 6:49:27 PM PST by xone
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To: xone
It's much more than a "desirablity". Don't you read Scripture? Or do you, like Luther, ignore Christ's very Words?
80 posted on 12/22/2014 6:52:23 PM PST by ebb tide
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