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What Language Did Jesus Speak?
CE.com ^ | September 26, 2008 | Mickey Addison

Posted on 01/17/2015 9:07:56 AM PST by Salvation

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To: TianaHighrider
But I am just a ‘novice’ so to speak. Maybe God was trying to tell me something*.

Or maybe they tossed it from the window...

141 posted on 01/17/2015 4:36:25 PM PST by Iscool
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To: CynicalBear; Elsie
So much evidence yet denial on the part of Catholics. It’s stunning really.

The examples that have been seen are akin to those seen among cults. While not precise or accurate enough, given aspects of which include:

From the theological viewpoint, any group or religious system, whether it calls itself "Christian" or not, that offers other criteria as equal to or superior to the Bible, including but not limited to erroneous and/or exclusive interpretations of Scripture, should be considered a cult.

....Cults have shifted their theological point of authority away from God's full and final written Word, the Bible, to their own unique, self-promoting opinions about the Bible; they generally will use parts of the Bible but will have their own unique scripture which is considered to be superior to the Bible.

...The cult leader is looked to as the infallible interpreter of Scripture, specially appointed by God to be a special saint, guru, or contemporary messiah, and thereby, has divine authority that must not be violated.

...Each cult group, regardless of what other doctrines are taught, will all have this one common idea -- "The Only True Church Syndrome." The members of each specific organization have been taught that their church, organization, or community, is the only true group and that all other groups are false.

...Cults tend to focus on one verse or passage of the Bible to the exclusion of others, and without regard for the context in which Scripture is given

Cults often demand total commitment by their converts to an organizational involvement that entangles them in a complicated set of human restrictions, giving the impression of passionate and often irrational devotion to a cause.

Occult influence is many times found in either the origin of the group and/or in its current practices.

- http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/marksof.htm -----------------

1. New scripture

Cults almost always exclude themselves from legitimate Christian churches.

Cult groups typically revere (and in some cases deify) their leader...It is biblical to follow the example of Christian leaders (Heb. 13:7), and God uses leaders to make an impact on people. However, we should follow Christian leaders only if they themselves are following God.

Singer describes the cult structure like an inverted “T” with the leader at the top and all others at the bottom.[9] In other words, cult leaders have all of the authority in decision-making and the direction of the organization. Furthermore, leaders of cult groups are not accountable to anyone, and they make decision by fiat. -http://www.evidenceunseen.com/world-religions/what-is-a-cult/

142 posted on 01/17/2015 4:43:46 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Seraphicaviary
We who believe Mary was virgin before, during, and after the birth of Jesus to the end of her life believe that because it makes no sense to be in the presence of God daily and still carry on an average life.

From a born again Christian perspective, this is really hard to grasp...

143 posted on 01/17/2015 4:51:09 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

:)


144 posted on 01/17/2015 4:53:20 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Iscool

We don’t get to choose from many historical sources from that period. We have to take what we have. You can take Iraneus and Eusebius (Christian) or Talmudic - ironically saying similar things regarding the language of Jews in First Century Israel.


145 posted on 01/17/2015 4:54:04 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: Seraphicaviary
Sex is for a purpose, and there is no need once the purpose has been fulfilled, which was done for both.

Certainly is...It's for making babies and for personal pleasure...

146 posted on 01/17/2015 4:54:53 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Seraphicaviary
Tell me again how “What Language Did Jesus Speak” devolve into a centuries only unresolved position about Mary’s sex life?

It is not unresolved...Mary clearly had sex and babies...

147 posted on 01/17/2015 4:58:24 PM PST by Iscool
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To: daniel1212

Catholicism is a cult by that definition and many others.


148 posted on 01/17/2015 5:01:21 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Iscool

But that is certainly a thought. There are some odd folks. Or a really bad day maybe?

It had a couple paper items in and a also a hat and other papers nearby. So maybe they just forgot they left the items on the roof and they were flying down the road and hit a pothole, squirrel,cat, racoon, roadkill, or swerved to miss one of those electric scooters going up and down the street.

Or, maybe someone got mad at someone else and threw their things out the window going down the street. I could see that happening too.


149 posted on 01/17/2015 5:05:44 PM PST by TianaHighrider (Restoration of the Constitution first and foremost)
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To: CynicalBear

dam straight.


150 posted on 01/17/2015 5:09:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Salvation

ask Mel Gibson


151 posted on 01/17/2015 5:32:49 PM PST by Coleus
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To: CynicalBear

Around 180 Irenaeus of Lyons Against Heresies 3:1:1. He saw the text in Aramaic- the very ones you claimed didn’t exist. The matter is settled.


152 posted on 01/17/2015 6:12:58 PM PST by verga
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church. After their departure, Mark, the disciple and interpreter of Peter, did also hand down to us in writing what had been preached by Peter. Luke also, the companion of Paul, recorded in a book the Gospel preached by him. Afterwards John, the disciple of the Lord, who also had leaned upon his breast, did himself publish a Gospel during his residence at Ephesus in Asia. (Around 180 Irenaeus of Lyons Against Heresies 3:1:1)

Irenaeus saw the text.

153 posted on 01/17/2015 6:17:49 PM PST by verga
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To: Seraphicaviary

Do you know why the first commandment given to man was, “Be fruitful and multiply?”

-Because when man saw how fun the first commandment was, he’d want to keep all of the commandments....

So clearly you’re wrong ;)

(I think this is a Christian thread but there’s a little Jewish humor for you... in Judaism, there is still to this day an obligation to have marital relations. No question about it... and if a couple has no children in 10 years, it’s grounds for divorce, though not compulsory.)


154 posted on 01/17/2015 6:49:11 PM PST by Phinneous (My First Tag Line! What Goes Here? ;))
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To: verga

“Irenaeus saw the text.”

All we know is that he thinks he saw it... Or that it wasn’t inspired.

We’ll never know. I would have liked to read it. Perhaps it will also be found in a cave someday, safely tucked into a clay pot - a time capsule.


155 posted on 01/17/2015 7:30:06 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
not idols.

Now wait a minute there, you may have gone too far. I'm sure they are still available a the Vatican gift shop.

156 posted on 01/17/2015 7:59:04 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

“Now wait a minute there, you may have gone too far. I’m sure they are still available a the Vatican gift shop.”

Look on the second floor. Go past “Indugences for All Occasions”’ and you will see a replica of “Peter’s Chair”. Turn right. At the next aisle, you will find beads, candles, costumes and pageantry items. Look to your left.

There you will find the complete selection of Saint Bric-à-brac. It will include dashboard idols, idols you bury upside down by your mailbox to sell your house faster, demigodess statues of Mary to pray to, replicas of dead saints bones, and large size idols to parade through streets on feast days. You can also purchase laminated idol pictures.


157 posted on 01/17/2015 9:06:09 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NFHale; Organic Panic
Smiley
158 posted on 01/17/2015 10:17:17 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
All we know is that he thinks he saw it... Or that it wasn’t inspired.

Why would you (or anyone) believe that? Why would Irenaeus lie about that, what purpose would it serve?

159 posted on 01/18/2015 3:06:18 AM PST by verga
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To: Salvation

He also spoke and write Hebrew since writing out a book of the Torah was a requirement under the Law for all jewish males.


160 posted on 01/18/2015 5:30:35 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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