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Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)
Catholic Exchange ^ | JULY 26, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer

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Tim Staples is Director of Apologetics and Evangelization here at Catholic Answers, but he was not always Catholic. Tim was raised a Southern Baptist. Although he fell away from the faith of his childhood, Tim came back to faith in Christ during his late teen years through the witness of Christian televangelists. Soon after, Tim joined the Marine Corps. During his four-year tour, he became involved in ministry with various Assemblies of God communities. Immediately after his tour of duty, Tim enrolled in Jimmy Swaggart Bible College and became a youth minister in an Assembly of God community. During his final year in the Marines, however, Tim met a Marine who really knew his faith and challenged Tim to study Catholicism from Catholic and historical sources. That encounter sparked a two-year search for the truth. Tim was determined to prove Catholicism wrong, but he ended up studying his way to the last place he thought he would ever end up: the Catholic Church! He converted to Catholicism in 1988 and spent the following six years in formation for the priesthood, earning a degree in philosophy from St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in Overbrook, Pennsylvania. He then studied theology on a graduate level at Mount St. Mary s Seminary in Emmitsburg, Maryland, for two years. Realizing that his calling was not to the priesthood, Tim left the seminary in 1994 and has been working in Catholic apologetics and evangelization ever since.

H/t to freeper Heart Rest for posting the EWTN interview between Fr. Mitch Pacwa and Tim Staples here. Throughout the discussion, Tim expounded on how Dr. Martin's dismissal of Mary as Mother of God resulted in the dismissal of Jesus as Eternal Son.

1 posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
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Thanks to Heart Rest for the discussion! Catholic ping!


2 posted on 01/24/2015 3:24:39 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting this.


3 posted on 01/24/2015 3:37:36 PM PST by aposiopetic
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her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix and Mediatrix...

Whaaaat?

4 posted on 01/24/2015 3:37:53 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: NYer

Could this explain maybe why Martin Luther was circumspect in his comments about the Blessed Virgin Mary?

http://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/martin_luther_on_mary.php


5 posted on 01/24/2015 3:38:15 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: NYer

Is Mary omniscient?


6 posted on 01/24/2015 3:44:18 PM PST by tbpiper
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“her immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, assumption into heaven, her Queenship, and her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix”

I appreciate these posts because I didn’t know Catholics actually believed these extreme things.

Christ, for example, is the only redeemer and the theology reflected in the author’s sentence I quoted is not Consonant with Christian Biblical theology.

It really is a Mary worship and making Jesus’s mother her a type of god herself.


7 posted on 01/24/2015 3:44:29 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: don-o
Could this explain maybe why Martin Luther was circumspect in his comments about the Blessed Virgin Mary?

In the interview with Fr. Mitch Pacwa, Tim explained that with the denominational protestant churches (Lutheran, Methodist, etc) there is no issue with recognizing Mary as the Mother of God. As the protestant churches evolved into evangelical and non-denominational churches, however, the distinction was lost. He cited Dr. Walter Martin's view as the most extreme, going so far as to dismiss God as the Eternal Father. His point was to demonstrate how once Mary is removed from the equation, it is all downhill.

How is Mrs. Don-o doing? Miss her so much!

8 posted on 01/24/2015 3:54:12 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: don-o

Luther was about Christ, not worshipping Christ’s mother.


9 posted on 01/24/2015 3:56:52 PM PST by xone
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To: NYer
How is Mrs. Don-o doing? Miss her so much!

She is still quite ill. There are great challenges that we have to overcome to get her back to health. Keep praying.

10 posted on 01/24/2015 4:02:27 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: ifinnegan

The writer had better be glad Dr. Walter Martin is deceased and can’t defend himself.
I would love to see them in a one on one debate, just not anytime soon . . . .


11 posted on 01/24/2015 4:07:09 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: ifinnegan
Christ, for example, is the only redeemer

Yes, of course this is correct.

Only God could be a redeemer.

Mary is not God, though catholics by saying she is sinless strive to make her that.

12 posted on 01/24/2015 4:13:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: ifinnegan

The letters to the churches in Revelation are in fact a revelation.


13 posted on 01/24/2015 4:13:31 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: ifinnegan

It looks as though all you did was scan for a sentence you could disagree with. You didn’t actually read or reflect on the ARGUMENT, did you?

And aren’t you getting a little bored with the old “Catholics make Mary into God” crapola?


14 posted on 01/24/2015 4:14:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: NYer

Walter Martin said That?


15 posted on 01/24/2015 4:14:54 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: ifinnegan

If you ever studied what this Mary promises for praying the rosary with scripture, you may question your faith when this lying mary points to the sameJesus that the Protestants have their faith in..

That is, unless protestants have a different Jesus not born on December 25, killed on good Friday and raised on easter like the roman catholic Jesus..


16 posted on 01/24/2015 4:21:40 PM PST by delchiante
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To: NYer

bkmk


17 posted on 01/24/2015 4:23:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: delchiante

I’m not sure I follow your post. What are you trying to say?


18 posted on 01/24/2015 4:26:36 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: NYer
Errr excuse me!

And that is when the trouble began. When groups of non-infallible men attempted to agree, the result ended up being the thousands of Protestant Catholic sects we see today.

still applies

God does have a sense of humor.

19 posted on 01/24/2015 4:27:50 PM PST by the_daug
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her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix and Mediatrix...

Heresy .... the goddess Mary ...

20 posted on 01/24/2015 4:39:00 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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