Evangelicals & the Eucharist (Part 1)

The Cripplegate, New Generation of Non-Conformists ^ | May 23, 2013 | Nathan Busenitz, professor of theology at Cripplegate's The Master’s Seminary

[Elsie]

What do you think “manna” is?

Only ONE word???

To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna.

To me, "I will" means some time in the future. IF one is victorious.

Nothing you posted indicates some MAN, will give a person a WAFER, on earth NOW.

[Elsie]

It’s the one what’s got ‘Gospel according to John’ on it, or some such ; )

Shirley; there must be some SPECIFIC thing in it that you want to emphasis; right?

[Elsie]

Never the twain shall meet.

[RnMomof7]

And those nuns struck the fear of God into you about it. They had you thinking that God would strike you dead for doing something like that to Christ's body.

LOL...I still remember my "1st communion" the water founts were covered with purple covers (because in my day you could also not drink after midnight if you were going to communion)

And we too were forbidden to "chew " the wafer because jesus "might actually bleed "

[Elsie]

Make up your mind.

Why?

You guys don't.

Is Francis YOUR pope or not?

[Elsie]

Catholics don't respond to scripture much...

AG does!

[Elsie]

Make that AMG

[Elsie]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RnMomof7]

Been over an hour and a half...Catholics don't respond to scripture much...

I just think he knows there is no infallible interpretation of that verse, so he would have to give his own interpretation of that scripture..(and 99.9999% of any scripture )

[roamer_1]

Why no, Agnes.... you’ll just have to read the whole thing... Context is everything... Start in that Genesis thingy and work your way up to it...

[Arthur McGowan]

It means that without the Holy Spirit, we are lost, and that human nature unaided by grace can do nothing.

“Without me, you can do nothing.”

The “flesh” in the sense of unaided human nature is NOT the flesh of Jesus which he promises to give us to eat. I have seen these words twisted, as though Jesus is saying “MY flesh profiteth nothing.” (And, therefore, what’s the point of giving us his flesh to eat?)

It’s amazing how people will twist themselves into pretzels trying to prove that, in John 6, Jesus isn’t saying anything more interesting than “have faith.” And saying it VERY BADLY.

[Iscool]

Forbidden was hardly the word.

It was a SIN!!!!

And those nuns struck the fear of God into you about it. They had you thinking that God would strike you dead for doing something like that to Christ's body.

Isn't that really peculiar since we have a Catholic priest here telling us that the word used in the scriptures to command us to eat the flesh of Jesus actually means to gnaw, rip, tear, chew and grind the flesh of Jesus before we swallow and that proves the verse is to be taken literaly...

[Iscool]

Shirley; there must be some SPECIFIC thing in it that you want to emphasis; right?

And I thought it was Art...

[Iscool]

And we too were forbidden to "chew " the wafer because jesus "might actually bleed "

Wow...Did they tell you that would be painful to Jesus???

[Iscool]

It means that without the Holy Spirit, we are lost, and that human nature unaided by grace can do nothing.

The Holy spirit hadn't even been mentioned...In the entire Chapter...The Holy Spirit hadn't even shown up yet...

[Arthur McGowan]

You’re forgetting: Even though the Holy Spirit hasn’t been mentioned yet, SAINT JOHN KNEW ABOUT HIM ALREADY as he was writing the gospel.

[Arthur McGowan]

The nuns were WRONG.

If a person allows the Host to dissolve completely in the mouth, and never actually swallows any part of the host, he does not receive the sacrament.

This happens much more rarely nowadays, for three reasons:

1) the hosts themselves are more substantial, and do not dissolve so quickly without chewing and swallowing;

2) People are no longer mistakenly instructed not to chew the host;

3) Many people receive under both species.

[Arthur McGowan]

Proposition:

If Jesus has not given us his true body and his true blood to be received in the sacrament of the Eucharist, then the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED.

Discuss.

[boatbums]

You just had to swallow it whole, after you scraped it off the roof of your mouth with your tongue, where it stuck like it was super-glued on.

I know! God forbid you tried to stick your finger in your mouth to dislodge it. Nuns were waiting ruler in hand to catch some poor kid at it.

[boatbums]

I have a vivid memory when I was seven of being SO hungry before Sunday Mass that I snuck a ½ donut and still received communion. I was guilt-wracked for the entire week - so afraid I would go to hell if I died before the following Saturday confession. Somehow, I don't think that is what our Lord intended for us.